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3-Series (E36) Chat relating to the BMW 3-Series from 1992-1999. Autodoodad Specific models include: BMW 316i, BMW 318i, BMW 318iS/ti, BMW 320, BMW 323, BMW 320, BMW 324, BMW 325, BMW 328.


       
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Old 10-31-2004, 11:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay...In the quest to update and mod my car out I keep finding subtle differences between older pre-1996 E36 cars and newer post-1996 E36 cars. I just posted something about exterior nose panel and grill differences...now I go under my hood of my 318i to replace and buy a new engine cowl...I go to ebay...and what do I find!?

Two very different engine configurations for 318i cars. The 1996 318i seems to have a bigger filter and other funky stuff going on in there when compared to a much simplier 1995 318i detail....anyway look at the pictures. Does anyone know what these differences are? and why? Is one engine more powerful?



The first three pictures are from the 1996 318i model





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These final two are from a 1995 318i car



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This is how the engine bay of my 92 318is looks(not my "actual" car) :

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Originally posted by kearnyme@Oct 31 2004, 11:25 AM
This is how the engine bay of my 92 318is looks(not my "actual" car) :

http://i18.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/b9/16/b8_1.JPG
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There are 4 versions of the 318 motor.

early 80's E30 318 - M10 motor, 1.5L 4cyl
late 80's E30 318 - M42 OBD1 1.8L with different higher flowing intake manifold
early 90's E36 318 - M42 OBD1 1.8L pretty much same as E30 318 motor, but has a worse flowing cast aluminum manifold.
late 90's E36 318 - M44 OBD2 1.9L slightly more torque.
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OBDII vs OBDI as well???? I imagine that caused a need for different configurations in the engine bays as well as some different bolt on parts........
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I have a 96 318i and the differences that i have noticed are the mass air sensors are different and so are the stock air boxes (95 and older have a less abnokious snorkel. the mass air meter on the 95 is much bigger and harder to replace (eliminate with an intake system) and move arround.

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Well done my friend... well done...

I'm not too sure about a change in engine parts placement due to a OBD change...

Atleast in the states the change mainly included a lot more emission sensors... and mainly two more O2 sensors...

interesting find though...

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Originally posted by Delmarco+Nov 1 2004, 07:37 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Delmarco @ Nov 1 2004, 07:37 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-robbins6103@Nov 1 2004, 11:56 AM
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He's not just called the "moderator" for his fly E36!!!!


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yet he still is the master of the m42, just look at that beast of a bmw
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Originally posted by Autotechnica+Oct 31 2004, 08:46 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Autotechnica @ Oct 31 2004, 08:46 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-kearnyme@Oct 31 2004, 11:25 AM
This is how the engine bay of my 92 318is looks(not my "actual" car) :

http://i18.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/b9/16/b8_1.JPG
[snapback]221659[/snapback]
There are 4 versions of the 318 motor.

early 80's E30 318 - M10 motor, 1.5L 4cyl
late 80's E30 318 - M42 OBD1 1.8L with different higher flowing intake manifold
early 90's E36 318 - M42 OBD1 1.8L pretty much same as E30 318 motor, but has a worse flowing cast aluminum manifold.
late 90's E36 318 - M44 OBD2 1.9L slightly more torque.
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I believe there's also the M40 and the M43 which replaced the M40 in the late 90s. Also later the M43TU found in E46s.
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This is how the engine bay of my 92 318is looks(not my "actual" car) :

http://i18.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/b9/16/b8_1.JPG
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There are 4 versions of the 318 motor.

early 80's E30 318 - M10 motor, 1.5L 4cyl
late 80's E30 318 - M42 OBD1 1.8L with different higher flowing intake manifold
early 90's E36 318 - M42 OBD1 1.8L pretty much same as E30 318 motor, but has a worse flowing cast aluminum manifold.
late 90's E36 318 - M44 OBD2 1.9L slightly more torque.
[snapback]221937[/snapback]
I believe there's also the M40 and the M43 which replaced the M40 in the late 90s. Also later the M43TU found in E46s.
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None of those motors existed in North America. So that doesn't really apply here. Good info nonetheless.

Welcome to bmw-forums. I've always been a fan of your ride.
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He's not just called the "moderator" for his fly E36!!!!


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yet he still is the master of the m42, just look at that beast of a bmw
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LOL, it just "looks" fast
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None of those motors existed in North America. So that doesn't really apply here. Good info nonetheless.

Welcome to bmw-forums. I've always been a fan of your ride.
Sounds like you guys didn't miss out on much then

Some of the M43s came in 1.6L single cam

Thanks for the kind words. Doing more things to the car next year, hopefully it will be finished then
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ok guys... quick question, i have this engine.... a 94 318is

is says, that i have a worse flowing cast aluminum manifold??? how would i fix this problem? A new manifold, performance manifold?

Please Someone Help! Autotechnica... thats probably you!

early 90's E36 318 - M42 OBD1 1.8L pretty much same as E30 318 motor, but has a worse flowing cast aluminum manifold.
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