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Old 06-27-2004, 11:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i was waxing my car today, and when i went to pull out of the garage the key turned to position 2, then popped before position 3. now the key is in my hand, the dash, stereo, car is on, but the engine is not running. DOH!

i cannon turn the car on or off, the key clicks once when you try to turn it, but nothing happens. there is no resistance when u turn the key to the start position (3) the steering wheel lock is jacked up, and i have to disconnect the battery to shut the electronics down.

i know i have to replace the lock cylinder, but what about the switch? anyone have/heard of this?? this is a new one for me. i think it sucks.

is there an easy way to hotwire my car w/out skrewing up everything? im really serious, i have to take the g/f to the airport tomorrow? i need to know where to bypass the lock cyl. but where?

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I don't think there is.. BMWs are damn hard to steal, you *might* be able to take the cylinder out and figure out how to start the car without it but it has to be in the accessory position first.
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I can tell you how to start it, but it won't do you any good because your steering column is locked. Sorry

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i tried, but its stuck. i dont think it is lining up w the release button. i tried to hit it w/the wire, but it wouldnt trigger.

i dont need a special chipped key, so i know it is possible to hotwire, but i need to find the correct way to turn it on and off like that. whos got the info?? i know its out there, i can steal a honda/mazda/ford in under a minute. who knows bmw's? hook it up.

p/m me if you dont want to post the info.
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i can turn the wheel just fine, it just won't lock.
what do i have to do?

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To the starter, three wires. Usually 2 reds and a brown. Brown is ground 2 reds are power. Crossing the two reds will give you power to the cluster. Which you already have... Good brown wire to red wires = vroom. Good luck, I assume no responsibility if you shock yourself.

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Oh yeah, first you've got to get the starter out of the steering column... Can't help you there.
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is this accurate? tried and tested, or is this going to kill my electronics? im not worried, ive been shocked before, but have u tried it?

im about to. if im not back in 5 min, im fried and im sending people to find ya. j/k

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ps. if there r any other ways, post them up.
now im interested.
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Um, there's another more complicated way, but you don't need to worry about it cause you're beyond the "hard part" If the grounding out the two wires doesn't work, you need to connect the two hot wires to power it.

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do i tye the wires together, or just touch them for a sec


so where did u learn this? its the same for fords, hondas.

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Just touch them, it's powering the starter just like when you turn the key to position 3.

Sometime I get bored and just go browse crap online. My dad my also have showed me a few things, but you have to remember this is old school stuff. This won't work on your average car, just crappy old ones, Or ones you already have the safeties turned off on and just need to power the starter.

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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ha!


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thanks Kevin. thats cool!
now that @$$hole's car is mine. j/k

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oh, what was the hard part u were talking @ and how do u do it?
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Uh, making the fuel pump, pump fuel. Unlocking the steering column. I don't know how to bypass those.

You try it yet? I would like to know if it works with BMWs or if they have another safety in the ignition switch.

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if you would like a less messy way to start the car, look at my DIY push start in the FAQ section. since the key is stuck on run it will start fine, all you need is a switch and relay, both available at radioshack.
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Old 06-28-2004, 01:31 AM   #14 (permalink)
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i just saw that, and im gonna try it tomorrow. thanks.

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wait. how will i shut the car off? i cant turn it off w/the key. i have to disconnect the battery right now.
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Um, that's a trickey one. You'll have to short the system somehow. Like hitting the hot wire to the ground. You could wire up a "start" switch, then right next to it a "stop" switch.

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