Turbo 318i? - BMW Forum - BimmerWerkz.com
BMW Forum BMW Forum

Auto Insurance

» Featured Product
Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   BMW Forum - BimmerWerkz.com > BMW Model Specific Forums > 3-Series (E36)
Register Home Forum Active Topics Gallery / Showroom Auto Loans Garage Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Auto EscrowInsurance

3-Series (E36) Chat relating to the BMW 3-Series from 1992-1999. Autodoodad Specific models include: BMW 316i, BMW 318i, BMW 318iS/ti, BMW 320, BMW 323, BMW 320, BMW 324, BMW 325, BMW 328.

BimmerWerkz.com is the premier BMW Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-29-2005, 08:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
n00b
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Car:
Posts: 14
Photos:
mrfunk is an unknown quantity at this point
I know this sounds ghey, but i want to turbo my 1992 318i e36. My friend said he will give me his rx7 series 4 turbo if i do it. Are these turbo's ok to use on my engine? (seeing as that rotaries can rev very high and i dont think my 1.8ltr could) Anyway the motor i have in it is a 1.8 ltr m40? or 42 im not sure. its the same motor as in the latest model e30's (the one that still uses a cam timing belt). I only want about 7psi just for now to see how it goes. And another thing i have a limited budget. Heres a list of things i think I may need to do to my motor to compensate for the extra air

- decompression plate
- mild head porting
- pod filter
- custom exhaust manifold (or unless i can find one already made up)
- reprogrammed ecu? or piggyback chip?
- cam if needed? ( i dont want it to idle like its misfiring though)
- new stock clutch
- lightened flywheel
- injectors? (or will the stock ones be ok?) What cc are the injectors on my motor anyway?

will the stock pistons and rods hold up with this kind of boost? if not then i dont think i will do it because i know itll be expensive for new pistons. And if i do that i might as well get another or go crazy on this motor. I only want to turbo it because here in Melbourne, Australia not many people modify bimmers. I dont want it to be just another 318i. Just a little extra go would be nice thats all. And please dont tell me to buy an m3. i cant afford one. Any help and suggestions would be very appreciated. (sorry bout the long thread)
mrfunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 08-29-2005, 09:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
n00b
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Car:
Posts: 14
Photos:
mrfunk is an unknown quantity at this point
oh yeah by the way i forgot to ask about hp gain. I know it wont be much but im just curious.
mrfunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2005, 11:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
drz
Administrator
 
drz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tee Ex
Car: zhp
Posts: 12,129
Photos:
drz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to drz Send a message via MSN to drz
What year is your car? That will tell us what engine you have. Turboing your 318 is possible, and I understand how things go outside of the US: often modifying is far less expensive than buying the upgraded vehicle, making the modding a reasonable expense. I really don't know much about installing turbos. Just keep checking. SOmebody will respond with some good knowledge. I am thinking that fitment may be an issue depending on the dimensions of the rx7's turbo, but I don't know te actual size, so I am just guessing. It sound to me like it would be a cool thing to do. Keep us posted.
__________________
drz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2005, 06:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
1st Gear Member
 
nobrakese36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: LA california or montebello
Car:
Posts: 215
Photos:
nobrakese36 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to nobrakese36
some one turbo charged there 318is on thid sight its in the gallery try to contact them
nobrakese36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2005, 11:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
n00b
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Car:
Posts: 14
Photos:
mrfunk is an unknown quantity at this point
the year of my car is a 92 model. It came with the 1.8 liter that still used a cambelt. and its got the distributor in front of the cam gear. Anyone know which engine that is? m40? m42?
mrfunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2005, 11:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
drz
Administrator
 
drz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tee Ex
Car: zhp
Posts: 12,129
Photos:
drz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond reputedrz has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to drz Send a message via MSN to drz
90 through 95 is m42. No such thing as an m40. Some e30 318s used the m10.
__________________
drz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2005, 11:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
n00b
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Car:
Posts: 14
Photos:
mrfunk is an unknown quantity at this point
So the 95 still uses the cambelt setup? Are u sure? What engine is the e30 90 model?
mrfunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2005, 12:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
1st Gear Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: lafayette, ca
Car:
Posts: 166
Photos:
vincentwashere is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to vincentwashere
whats your limited budget. if it is under $2000 you wont be able to pull it off. you need an intercooler also. there will be alot of custom fabrication and you will have to buy alot of used parts.
__________________
<img src='http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL615/2358567/4641837/67358906.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
vincentwashere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2005, 01:37 AM   #9 (permalink)
n00b
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Car:
Posts: 14
Photos:
mrfunk is an unknown quantity at this point
AU$2500 max i think. i'll do all the labour myself anyway, all the fabrication such as the turbo manifold and welding up the intercooler piping.i just need to know what im missing in my list. And if its only 7psi boost will i still be able to use the standard computer? or do i have to get a chip for it
mrfunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2005, 03:36 AM   #10 (permalink)
vwk
1st Gear Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Car:
Posts: 228
Photos:
vwk is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally posted by drz@Aug 29 2005, 10:42 PM
90 through 95 is m42. No such thing as an m40. Some e30 318s used the m10.
[snapback]373280[/snapback]
Wrong... What aboute europe? :P

We're not that small

E30 last model (by guess: 89-91) had M40 motor, E36 from 91 to 93 had M40 motor, E36 from 93 on has M44. Later 318is has M44.

;-)
__________________
Euro E36 M3 3.2 Rebuild Project

27 years
Location: The Netherlands
vwk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2005, 12:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
1st Gear Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: lafayette, ca
Car:
Posts: 166
Photos:
vincentwashere is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to vincentwashere
i recommend http://www.siastuning.com/ for electronic tuning. and you will need upgrade fuel injectors. bunch of pipeing. custom oilpan. all that crap
__________________
<img src='http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL615/2358567/4641837/67358906.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
vincentwashere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2005, 11:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
BZW
n00b
 
BZW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Car:
Posts: 23
Photos:
BZW is an unknown quantity at this point
I just bought my first BMW so I don't know a bunch about them yet, but my last car was a Dodge Stealth TT so maybe I can help.... vincentwashere was right, you will need to upgrade your fuel system with bigger injectors and possibly a bigger pump. You won't be able to use the stock ECU unless you chip it, or you may be able to keep the stock ECU and add an air/fuel controller. You will also have to have a new set of exhaust manifolds set up for forced induction.

Like I said I don't know much about BMW yet, but you may also need a bigger MAS and a larger intake manifold. You will also have to find the proper spark plug gap so that you don't detonate a piston.
BZW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2005, 08:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
1st Gear Member
 
nobrakese36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: LA california or montebello
Car:
Posts: 215
Photos:
nobrakese36 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to nobrakese36
vince 318,the early e36 until 1995 had the the m42,
nobrakese36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2005, 08:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
Pandemonium Director
 
nukeduster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Car: turbo 325is, 325es, Audi a4 turbo
Posts: 2,372
Photos:
nukeduster has a reputation beyond reputenukeduster has a reputation beyond reputenukeduster has a reputation beyond reputenukeduster has a reputation beyond reputenukeduster has a reputation beyond reputenukeduster has a reputation beyond reputenukeduster has a reputation beyond reputenukeduster has a reputation beyond reputenukeduster has a reputation beyond reputenukeduster has a reputation beyond reputenukeduster has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to nukeduster Send a message via MSN to nukeduster
Turboing is not a easy or cheap process. If you dont have alot of disposible income and/or a main daily driver dont even THINK about turboing your motor.

Your first custom turbo setup will always blow the motor, I dont care what PSI you run. You'll almost certainly detonate unless someone who knows what they are doing programs it for you and you use a setup that is already proven to work.

There is no such thing as a "safe" PSI when dealing with custom setups because every setup will produce different CFM @ x PSI..CFM is what matters.

The motor you have there is turbo-able, but if you use a thicker HG make sure to at least go with a MLS HG.. and don't go too thick. Dont use copper unless you plan on o-ringing the block/head.

I've done a custom turbo on my e30 and I do them for a living where I work and turboing is 3 things: not easy, not cheap, not for your main vehicle.

If you go ahead with it, I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend you pick up Corky Bell's book "Maximum Boost"...some things are in-accurate but overall its considered the bible for many when it comes to understanding turbos.

Btw: depending on the setup and how much custom welding you can do for yourself, plan to spend at least $4,000 USD making a semi-decent custom turbo from nothing. All the piping, small fittings you dont think about, ignition and fuel control, injectors, turbo, etc.. all add up, fast.

That $$ ammount is assuming you dont touch the internals of the motor and dont upgrade to lower C/R pistons, etc..

people will say you can build one cheaper, but they usually dont add every penny spend on small fittings, etc. trust me, I have. And I bought most my parts on ebay or @ a junk yard for my e30 turbo setup.
__________________
nukeduster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2005, 12:28 AM   #15 (permalink)
n00b
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Car:
Posts: 14
Photos:
mrfunk is an unknown quantity at this point
thanks to you all for the help. I've decided to do it. I've bumped up my budget and am in the process of asking around for prices on parts. If any of you have any suggestions on what are good websites (remembering im from australia) for auto parts please let me know because I can't wait to get this done By the way its an m40
mrfunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  BMW Forum - BimmerWerkz.com > BMW Model Specific Forums > 3-Series (E36)


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bmw E36 318i Turbo Conversion Johnboy1 3-Series (E36) 3 01-09-2005 11:29 AM
Turbo Charge Kit 318i Cheeks318i 3-Series (E36) 8 05-31-2004 10:17 AM
turbo charging a 318i savo 3-Series (E21, E30) 1 03-26-2004 11:50 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:16 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.