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#1 (permalink) Old 10-21-2007, 12:53 PM
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So I was going to change my rear shock mounts for RE, but then when we took the shocks out we realised I need to change them. I was wondering if you guys would give me advice.

I want something more sporty and I will some occaisionnal track days. What do you guys suggest? Btw streets over here are not the nicest, lots of potholes.

I was thinking of going coilover but I am open to suggestions.

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whats your price range? would you want to lower it (keep in mind speed bumps and such)... there are many options to choose from...
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i'd get koni single adjustable shocks and then some h&r sport springs

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i'd get koni single adjustable shocks and then some h&r sport springs
thats a pretty damn good setup and it gives you some adjustablility, but if you really want it to be nice and dont mind the extra penny id look into some bilstien pss9's... or you could spend the extra money from the coilovers and put that towards sways instead? its all choice....
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dont mind spending in the 1k range, I would probably set my limit to 1,5k thats not including sway bars.

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if you could bite the bullet id go for...

Ground Control Suspension Systems

and then some nice sways but a bit cheaper would be the pss9's...

Turner Motorsport - Item# GM5-8034 - E36 318i/325i/328i Bilstein PSS-9 Coil Over Suspension - E36

you know the greatest result would be if you went aftermarket and actually upgraded to an m3 suspension...
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Then I'd get the bilstien pss9. If you get them make sure to reinforce the rear shock mounts etc or if you get really serious in the corners you can rip apart the rear of your car. Also they are height adjustable so you can get a little drop but still be able to go over speed bumps etc. I find the stock M3 ride height to be pretty good for avoiding most problems. The bad ones can still get you tho.
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I'd look for a good condition used GC coil-over conversion kit and get new shocks and struts to go with it. There really isn't anything on the conversion kit to wear out so I wouldn't be afraid to get them used. The lower spring perches will probably show some wear but thats about it. I've had my GC stuff on my car for a year and a half and only show wear on the lower perch.
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Some of you know I dont like GC for the awful experience, so wont be ordering from them.

So your saying to go pss9 for an m3 and have that installed on my car? What is involved in upgrading to the m3 suspension?

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You'll need to do it in conjunction with sway bars... but besides that not 100% sure. My M3 hasn't needed any suspension work, so I've not been inside that part yet. But I know for sure you'll need M3 (tab mounted) sway bars if you get a kit made for the M3. But I don't think there is real difference in the kits (besides the sway bar mounting). But the tab mounted sway bar will give better handling and the expense of some ride quality.
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So your saying to go pss9 for an m3 and have that installed on my car? What is involved in upgrading to the m3 suspension?
i believe the only difference is like he said, the sway tabs which would be on the struts if you bought m3 struts... i know for a fact that you can run your sways that you have now, the only difference is you would need to buy the links that connect the sways to the strut instead of the control arm...
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So I should get aftermarket sways with the coilovers?

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Some of you know I dont like GC for the awful experience, so wont be ordering from them.

So your saying to go pss9 for an m3 and have that installed on my car? What is involved in upgrading to the m3 suspension?

thats really too bad....especially cause there is nothing even remotely good for the same cost as the GC products

but good move on the RE RSMs as IMO they are better than the GC ones...they are a nice piece of hardware...i almost wanted to mount them on the wall instead of install them, so pretty

as far as sways, stay away from them unless your life depends on them...i have said time and time again, sway bars are a LASSSSSSSSSSSSST ditch resort...people always install them thinking its going to make their car handle better and 9 times out of 10 it doesn't...just makes it lean less which isn't helping the handling necessarily as its killing all independent movement of the suspension thus creating traction issues...

a good coil over setup and a good damper should be your ticket...i say Ground Controls with Konis cause you have versatility with spring rates...but you have some issues with ground control so find someone else who sells adjustable perches and various spring rates of Eibach Race Springs

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To do the GC setup dont you need to buy re-valved konis from gc, or is that just if you get the track/school kit with really high spring rates?



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Put powerflex RTAB and LCAB, car feels more stiff and you feel more vibrations but I wouldnt go back to stock.

I will need to change one of my front sway link. I've seen many companies for this and a 50$ difference between them. Does anyone know whats so different?

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