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Old 11-13-2007, 11:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Need some expert advice. My '95 325 just turned 98K miles and needs a little work. Plan on doing some suspension work and need some input, thinking of Bilstein Sport shocks with Eibach lowering springs. Bavarian Autosports also has the Bilsteins with their own springs for about $100 less. Any thoughts on which is best? Personal experience? I want to improve handling, but do not want a harsh ride; this is my daily driver. I am also getting severe shaking in the steering wheel while making gradual right hand turns, appears to comes from the RT hand side, slow down and it goes away. I was thinking that this was a control arm problem?
Are the Meyle control arms better, supposedly the ball joint is better? If the control arms need replacing, then I would of course replace the control arm bushing. Anything else on the front end while I have it apart? Thx
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I got Powerflex poly bushings and im happy with them. Have you thought of coil overs?
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Not considering coil overs because of the harsh ride they cause. Not interested in lowering it any more than necessary.

Are tie rods really necessary at this time? I want to do it right, but the price of doing everything is adding up.

Do I need to buy anything else when doing the struts and shocks, or does the kit come with everything I need to do the job?

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He meant the tierods could be causing the vibration... Rear shock mounts will be needed if you are changing the suspension. H&R has some good kits.
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OK thanks!

It appears that H&R is preferred over Eibach. In looking into the H&Rs; they recommend using camber plates. This is an added $300; is this really necessary?
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No, camber plates are used on track cars, and aren't useful for a daily driver.
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Glad to hear that. The cost of the plates can be used for replacing other suspension parts.

I understand that I need to replace the shock mounts in the rear. Any preference on replacement? Cost?
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RE got them for 100$ or you could get the e46 ones with z3 reinforcement plates
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I just put H&R springs on a friends 325is last month along with Bilstein shocks. He had 115,000 miles on the car when he went to get it aligned he couldnt get it to aligned properly since the car had miles on the body. He called turnermotorsports at the alignment shop and they said some cars with high miles require camber plates even though most dont with the simple H&R coil spring. So cross your fingers you can get yours aligned. But no most people dont need them.

$300 WOW isnt there a better or cheaper places to find those ? surely they are not $300 everywhere out there.
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He meant the tierods could be causing the vibration... Rear shock mounts will be needed if you are changing the suspension. H&R has some good kits.
that's not what i meant, you'll want to get the vibration checked out, could be many things not sure, tie-rods are just another item that's worth while to replace when you're doing control arms, you might not need to replace your control arms, i'd take it to someone reputable and have them take a look since the vibration could be caused by many things, can you give some more description of the vibration?
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No, camber plates are used on track cars, and aren't useful for a daily driver.
they can be used to correct neg camber from a lowered car to reduce tire wear, they're also used to increase neg camber to reduce understeer, you probably won't need them though
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he said you need them to get it aligned properly, not true, the only reason you'd get them is to correct the neg camber to reduce tire wear, they are not NEEDED with just some h&r springs
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The Reason we put them on my friends 325is is because with the 100,000 miles on the body/frame of the car when the new suspension was put on you could not align the car up front to where the tires would wear correctly. You would take your hand off the wheel and it would pull to one side of the road. He started seeing them wear on the inside of the tire. Turnermotorsport said normally you dont need to use them on a normal H&R spring however his car needed it since it had a little road time and miles on it. Thats not saying another car cant have more miles than his does and get away with without them because it is possible I guess.

Buy the Springs put them on and have it aligned and see how it drives im sure you can get away without buying the plates.
Just an FYI the guy at Turnermotorsports.com recommended me when I put the same thing on my Vert to replace the factory strut hat's factory part the plates take the place of. They are not expensive at all and worth the trouble to put new ones on therefore after you get it together you are not tearing into it in a year to a few months to replace them. I got them at a local dealer around $26 for both I think... hell that may be to expensive lol it also helps with aligning the car up easier and keeping it aligned I was told.

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