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Old 01-24-2006, 08:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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alright guys, it's almost time to order some coilovers and i'm trying to decide which set. these will be going on my 11/92 built 325i so i have to get the conversion kit too. but i want full adjustability and so far i've only found the Bilstein PSS9 and the H&R PCS sets. basically i'm wondering which brand name you guys prefer and why. i also have noticed the Bilsteins to be cheaper in price by around 500bucks which makes a difference. are the H&R's worth the extra money?

or on a non-adjustable thought, i can get KYB gr2's and Eibach pro-kit springs from work for pretty cheap too if i decide to do that. anyone have this set-up?

and just for kicks, post some pics with whatever set-up you have and state what you have.
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IMO the H&R's are worth the money you get in quality. I have them on my M... and I've heard great words from other users. As for the best street coil out there... I'd say H&R.... best track/adjustable Ground Control.

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just a OT question, does ur car have vanos?

and if ur gona go track i agree with les, ground control...
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no. my car does not have vanos, and that's the way i prefer it. there's another 92 in the local paper for cheap i was thinking about picking up, but i dont need a third car.
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no. my car does not have vanos, and that's the way i prefer it. there's another 92 in the local paper for cheap i was thinking about picking up, but i dont need a third car.
u dont have vanos? thats awsome. i guess vanos didnt come into play until 93....hmmmmm
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yes, that is correct. the 92 had a slightly different front suspension set-up as well as the non-vanos engine. the non-vanos engine is actually more stout than the newer vanos engine too.
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As for the Vanos I thought it started in 7/92 or there about.

But as for the suspension you have the more desireable suspension setup (strut tab mount sway bars in front). Which I am not sure if that will cause problems with the coil-overs or not. You may just get the kit for the E36 M3 because the M3 continued to use the tab mounted sway bars... or sway bars from a 93+ and install them instead. Not sure if that's a problem or not... hopefully some one can let you know if there is a difference in the coil-over kits or not... And I'm interested in the answer as well, so when you find out for sure, let me know just for my own curiosity.

As for your question. You can not go wrong with any of your coil-over choices. I preffer Bilstein shocks and H&R springs for non coil over choices. I've never heard anything bad about the Bilstein coil-over kit, but I'd go with les on this if you have the extra dough to throw around. I'm not a huge fan of ground control, but do not have any experiance with their stuff for BMW's or recent experiance with any of their newer products.

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yes, that is correct. the 92 had a slightly different front suspension set-up as well as the non-vanos engine. the non-vanos engine is actually more stout than the newer vanos engine too.
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the kid, his car is a 11/92 built...thats y i was confused too...btw ill send u those pics asap, i have a exam tommrow ive been busy with..so sorry man...
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thekid - i'm not entirely sure what "tab" you are talking about. the front sway bar on my car bolts to the control arms. starting in 6/92 (93 model years) the sway bars were getting bolted to a bracket on the struts. it does make a difference in the coilovers, and all the front suspension i can buy. see as my car is the odd year out, there isnt so much aftermarket support for them. there is, however, the ability to buy a kit along with the coilovers of your choice to convert your 11/92 - 5/92 built suspension to accomodate the newer style. a lot of places sell the kit, but most dont advertise them.


ahh....i see the confusion now. sorry, i didnt reallize i typed 11/92 in my first post. my car was built in 11/91. sorry about that guys.
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ahh....i see the confusion now. sorry, i didnt reallize i typed 11/92 in my first post. my car was built in 11/91. sorry about that guys.
that makes so much more sense...
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Front sway bars were first connected to the control arms... till 1996 with the addition of a sway bar link connecting it to the mid shaft of the strut housing.. thus from an engineering stand point.. saving about 30-40 pounds of front momentum caused by the old hardware.

All struts made by H&R for the e36 have the tab to mounted to the sway bar... thats called saving money on not having to produce two different mid shafts.

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according to H&R's site, extra parts are required to install their coilovers in my 11/92 car. it doesnt say anything more than that however and i'm not sure exactly what they mean.

97alpineM3 - what tab are you talking about? got any pictures to give me a better idea? and what are you saying about not using end links until 96 or whatever? that statement confused me.

another question - strut tower bars. whose do you guys have or prefer?
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BMW did not connect the sway bar to the strut housing till 96.

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Thats my DIY on coilovers...

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then what makes the coilovers different for cars built 6/92 and later?
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