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#1 (permalink) Old 11-16-2008, 04:28 AM
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Question Suggestions Please!!

hey everyone.
I need some advice.
Last night was out having a spin, in the old Tourer.
Almost shit a brick when it started leaning way to much on a bend.
Wasnt going fast, just a bit scary because of the weight of the car.
Ive got three small kids, and wanted some suggestions for a good set of
shocks/springs.
Is it a good idea to change them?
How low should i go?
How much should i spend?
Do i need to replace other parts aswell? ( i.e Strut braces/ anti roll/ bushes)
Has anyone had or got a Tourer that has done this to it?
I still want to keep a similar smooth ride, will i lose this?
Any help would be great guys.
As i cant lose it with the little guys in it, especially with the ice on the way.
Thanks in advance.
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What are your tyres like, ( as tread, most important how old are they )I would have thought there was something on the road ??? as they dont normally do this, or a bit to much gas pedal ???, as for lowering etc. the ride will become harder and road noise will increase with low profiles on.

Strut braces are ok if your in a straight line, the body needs to flex slightly, so with one on you could have the same problem. I had one on the 7, after about 4 roundabouts took it off again, as she was tending to slide round rather than glide round and a full wheel alignment is not that cheap, esp twice.

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Not a good idea then?
The tyres are good mate, It just feels like the back is about to go, even at low speeds.
Not into drifting and all that, but feel like i am going to slide.
Obviously i dont want that, what else can i do??
Please someone help!!!!!
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Its up to you of course, but I would go no on the brace, it only effects the front awyway!, as for the rear, if your that concerned, which I feel you are.

Two things to do, get the rear suspension checked, ie. anti-roll bar bushes, springs ( 1 maybe broken ) etc. the other option is to put some wider rims on the rear or all round.

The reason I asked how old the tyres were, is as they age the tyre walls get more flexible and spongy, so this would make it feel as if its about to lose grip, hard to explain, like putting your had a jelly and move from side to side!!! to much wobble, as I said hard to explain.

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See what you mean about the tyres.
What do you think about these poly bushes?
Are they worth the extra?
What size rims should i look for?
Mate......
Dont know what to do!
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Poly bushes, Mmmmmmmm, I know of one person how has fitted them with no problems, as for me I like to stick with what the car was made with, as you dont spend millions on design and get it wrong, some little things are of course wrong, but bushes from BM dealer are the bollocks, so to speak!.

Wheel size; well up to you really, keep to the same 16"/ 17"/ 18" or whatever you have on there, its the width you req, but remember not to come out passed the arch or it will fail the MOT.

You could go for 225x40's or 235x40's or 245x40's, the best bet would be go to your local tyre centre and ask ? " whats the widest tyres can I have on these wheels " and go from there its better to fit to the rims you have or things start getting costly.

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I have to agree with your comment on BMs skill, when making the bollox.
Ive only got 15s on at the moment.
Quite fancy the Mv2, but have been told camber cannot be adjusted easily on the front.
Apparantly the rear has self adjusting, but not front.
Not sure about 18s as the tyre price is *#*!, and i would imagine they will compromise the ride.
Will find out about tyres tomorrow, but think i should just get bigger rims.
Nice one mate
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go back to basics i had trouble with mine when i first got it the front shocks were a bit stuffed and made it feel like it wanted to slide every were , also felt a bit uneasy at 120 mph so id go and put a new set of gas monroes on all 4 corners as a good start point then look at recompressing the springs if you want to lower , cheeper and just as good, well at least its worked v-well for all the cars ive done it to. hope it helps
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Nice one mate
So i need to get monroes?
Does it have to be those?
Are you saying that i should invest in a new suspension setup?
Shocks and springs?
Roughly how much should i spend?
Thanks mate appreciate your advice.
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a refresh of your suspension (new shocks and springs) will help, if you want to upgrade I had H&R sport springs on and they dont give a rough ride. You should also change your bushings, just go with oem.

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it in no way has to be Monroe’s but I found that those are a good gas shock and with the factory springs make for a nice ride, the new shocks will stiffen the car up you will still get a bit of body roll but when driving on uneven roads ( as 99% are in new Zealand ) you wont end up 2 " shorter by the time you’ve got where your going ,but if you want it to be a track demon id go for a set of bilstien coilovers will cost a bit but will be rock steady .

those are just two examples of what you could at different ends of the price range, its all really up to experiment , see what suits your style of driving and the type of roads you drive , no point have $1000 shocks if all your going to do is drive to work and the shops

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nice one guys.
im on the look out for a set of 18s aswell.
Just got the leather interior in, looks the bollox.will post some pics soon.
thanks again guys.
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