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Old 06-08-2004, 02:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it possible to put an e46 engine preferably (spelling) a m3 into an e36? the answer is probably no but you never know...

also looking to get a good e36 m3 engine. any ideas?
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Old 06-08-2004, 10:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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also looking to get a good e36 m3 engine. any ideas?
Yep, a Euro M3 (286 HP<'96<321 HP)
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Don't know about a direct bolt in, but with the right amount of money, anything like that can be done. However, I can't imagine it being that hard of a swap. At least its not putting a 451 big block in to it. I read in a Sport Compact Car magazine about a Hyundai Tiburon that had two separate 150 hp 4cyl DOHC tiburon engines mounted; one on each axel. Each one had its own independant Auto tranny. This thing had no mods on it and it ran 10s in the quarter.
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it can be done. You would most likely need custom fab'd motor mounts and a slew of other one-off parts, but it wouldn't be too hard to do.
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Old 06-08-2004, 11:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally posted by dutchbmw+Jun 8 2004, 10:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dutchbmw @ Jun 8 2004, 10:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-jrhaile@Jun 8 2004, 09:46 AM
also looking to get a good e36 m3 engine. any ideas?
Yep, a Euro M3 (286 HP<'96<321 HP)[/b][/quote]
Definately the best choice there is if you are going E36. It's the same one I got and my swap is almost complete. I am doing the swap all by myself and it is actually easier than any engine that I have worked with. Pretty much direct bolt in. I just can't wait to drive this beast. Should be done this afternoon and the pics will be plentiful.
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but your lookin' at $15k+ for a good e46 m3 engine
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Dude, how much $$$ do you have.

For under $5K, you can go with a strong used M52 2.8L convert it to OBDI, chip it, add a CAI, and you have 250-260hp. The engine is virtually plug and play (save relocating a few things like the fuel pressure regulator and stuff) and you have to do no modding of engine mounts or electical rewiring. I did, and when all is said and done, I will have all the power I need...
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wait what?
$5k?
installed?
chip?
cai?
250hp?
huh?
i think the 250-60 hp is a little high... because most tests from cai and exhaust systems have the chip already installed...meaning your double adding the chip and or intake/exhaust
but hopefully i am wrong because 260hp + newer engine for $6000 total is very very interesting...

what does the 328 push hp wise? .3 litres more than the 180hp 325 hmmm...?
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also looking to get a good e36 m3 engine.* any ideas?

Yep, a Euro M3 (286 HP<'96<321 HP)
Definately the best choice there is if you are going E36. It's the same one I got and my swap is almost complete. I am doing the swap all by myself and it is actually easier than any engine that I have worked with. Pretty much direct bolt in. I just can't wait to drive this beast. Should be done this afternoon and the pics will be plentiful. [/b][/quote]
Did you install a Euro version or a US one? What did you change and what where your costs? I'm looking forward to your pics!
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No, he's got the OBD I conversion Skaw. That gets it to 240 (roughly)

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wait what?
$5k?
installed?
chip?
cai?
250hp?
huh?
That is what i have been trying to tell everyone for some time!!!

Stock M52 2.8L=190hp/206ftlbs. tq

+OBDI conversion=216hp/220ftlbs. tq

+chip=241hp/232ftlbs. tq

+CAI=247hp/233ftlbs. tq.

These numbers are estimated, but certainly not unreasonable. I have also added a better breathing exhuast and after installation of software and what not, I will redyno and post, give me some time, and I will relay this info.

Everyone is so big on the ///M3 conversion, and its cool, but my way is a lot more affordable and just as rewarding IMO.
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maybe you can explain this in more detail?
because i know (think rather) that my car uses obd 1 ???
so if i threw in a 328 engine in there with some mods would i be flyin?
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i also like how you added 6 hp for the air intake
that is way more feasable than 20 which what i thought you were figuring in
hmmm
and all this can be done for how much ??
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What exactly does the OBDI conversion do mechanically?
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OBDI is probably only a software swap.
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