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Old 10-03-2004, 09:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well my E30 is pretty much sold, and i am gonna be sad to see it go. But on the plus side, im gonna be upgrading to an E36. I want at least a 325, but if i can find i good 328 for a reasonable price i'll jump on it.

Any suggestions while looking. I am looking now, but i will be finished my 3rd year of school in feb and that is when i'll really start if i come across nothing before then.

so be ready to expect a lot of newb questions in the next few months.


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Old 10-03-2004, 10:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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In my opinion the 325 and 328 are worlds apart where performance is concerned. The 328 is far more lively and definitely worth whatever extra you pay for it. If you can get a 328 at all, definitely go for it.
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there is a nice E36 in my sig...but its a 318is. if that catches your eye let me know
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Old 10-03-2004, 11:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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In my opinion the 325 and 328 are worlds apart where performance is concerned. The 328 is far more lively and definitely worth whatever extra you pay for it. If you can get a 328 at all, definitely go for it.
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have you driven both cars? yes you can feel the difference, but with both cars stock, a 325 could pretty easily out perform a 328, its not that far apart, the 328 is nice though due to the same color body all around, but the obdII sucks, well doesnt suck at all but i like the obdI better

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but with both cars stock, a 325 could pretty easily out perform a 328, its not that far apart, the 328 is nice though due to the same color body all around
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If both cars are stock, how would a 325 out perform a 328?
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A 325i probably could out perform a 328i if the driver was better.
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but with both cars stock, a 325 could pretty easily out perform a 328, its not that far apart, the 328 is nice though due to the same color body all around
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If both cars are stock, how would a 325 out perform a 328?
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easily they are soo close in hp and the torque isnt that much further away either, throw in some restrictions on the 328 and waaa laa you have a 325 beating a 328 not hard at all, in fact ill try to find the movie that taught me this

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if you're a modder, the 325 is your ticket to heaven, if you're a stocker, go 328.

simple reasoning: OBDI vs OBDII

the OBDI 325 has the same hp rating as the OBDII 328, the extra displacement is to compensate for smog equipment. The 328 is a much more torque rich motor, whereas the 325 is more peaky. The OBDI computer makes the 325 more receptive to mods, and a much better car with M3 cams, a chip, an intake and an exhaust, plus the 325 is easier to supercharge or turbo, since the check engine light doesn't put the car into limp mode. With the OBDII system, the computer detunes the engine in the event of a check engine light, which happens if you sneeze too hard while making a tight left hander. (jk)

Point is, the torque rich inherent nature of the 328 makes it a better stock car, whereas the OBDI computer system makes the 325 a much more tuneable car for far less money.
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I have driven both cars, as a matter of fact.

As far as stock is concerned, as both cars were/are unmodified, the 328 had a tenacity about it that was unmatched by the 325 (I think it's a result of a different cylinder stroke? Better torque curve? I'm not sure about the technicalities of it all.) Despite the fact that they are within 1 or 2 horsepower of each other, both off the line and at speed the 328 was simply faster and more enjoyable, and I don't think they're "equal" at all in that respect.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to destroy the pride of 325 drivers or insult their choice of engine block. I'm just telling what I've experienced. And a Yugo GV could destroy an M3 if the Bimmer's driver didn't know what he was doing, so that's a moot point, right?
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i think i'll go for the 325. Hopefully i can find one that already has all the plastic painted already.
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Good choice, I know the 325 may not be as fast as the 328 but it will definately make you happy.
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Or you could just do a OBD II to OBD I and be faster
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325 is enough power for me. maybe an m3 when i get more skillful at driving.
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what are some good engine mods for a stock 325 without havin to get into the engine internals
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