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Old 06-22-2005, 04:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hello all, i've just received a B&M Short Throw Sifter part number 45126 and it came with installation instructions, but i'm stuck on the part removing the old one. I've followed the steps that they list but when it says to turn the bearing ring 1/4 turn counter clockwise to unlock it it turns just alittle bit, about a centimeter. Next steps says "The bearing can now be pushed up through the housing, the shift lever can be withdrawn from inside the vehicle." But how does it come out? There is a cup like part with an Upper and Lower Bearing Retaining Ring and both turn, but they just turn a little bit. Should it just slip right out or do you have to really pull it to get it out? Any help ASAP, my car is unuseable until i finish it, thanx in advanced!
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so...........i guess no one knows much about installing short throw shifters. I guess i'll just wait and let a mechanic bill me for it since i can't get any help to do it myself. I followed the instructions but the lever didn't just push right out. thanx anyways. maybe next time.
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Old 06-22-2005, 08:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally posted by kyle_baker@Jun 22 2005, 05:58 PM
so...........i guess no one knows much about installing short throw shifters. I guess i'll just wait and let a mechanic bill me for it since i can't get any help to do it myself. I followed the instructions but the lever didn't just push right out. thanx anyways. maybe next time.
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haha u sound mad because noone responded within 2 hours. u might want to give this thread a little more time before you let a mechanic put his dick in your ass, or look on the net for the answer. im sure its out there
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Old 06-22-2005, 08:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Mortiorchis+Jun 22 2005, 07:11 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mortiorchis @ Jun 22 2005, 07:11 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-kyle_baker@Jun 22 2005, 05:58 PM
so...........i guess no one knows much about installing short throw shifters. I guess i'll just wait and let a mechanic bill me for it since i can't get any help to do it myself. I followed the instructions but the lever didn't just push right out. thanx anyways. maybe next time.
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haha u sound mad because noone responded within 2 hours. u might want to give this thread a little more time before you let a mechanic put his dick in your ass, or look on the net for the answer. im sure its out there
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damn man, the whole dick and ass thing is just wrong. but yeah i'm pissed off, but just because the bearing ring didn't turn 1/4 turn and let the old lever out, it might be stuck for all i know, i tried to get it to turn more and come out for like 2 hours, oh well, i'm still learning so what can i say.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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When I had a 5 speed car I never installed a short shifter, so I don't know. or else I would have said something.
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well i had a friend of mine machine me a clutch stop and it turned out really well so i decided i'd get a B&M s.t.s. and i got a really good one, just can't get the old one off, i'm usually a pretty good mechanic on small projects but this thing has beat me, lol.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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haha mine would just pull off so i showed tonnes of silicone in to hold the knob in i wonder how ill get tht out one day!!
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Well here is the great thing. But first lemme make sure what you've done so far. You've already been underneath the car and undone the "catch" that is there, which I have heard is very very hard to reach with a 6cly car. Then you went back inside the car, took off the trim aound the shift and shift knob off. Then you are taking a feeler gauge or something similar and releasing the other catch, wich is a severe bitch to release. THe one inside the ring with the teeth looking things all the way around. Basically it is a bitch. My mechanic told me he was not able to do it without dropping the tranny out of the 6cly models. I think he said there wasn't room for him to reach the first release, in order to release it all the way. If you've managed to do that, then getting the teeth ring looking thing out is just a bitch and it takes a while. Keep at it.
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Are you stuck here?
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Basically unless you get it unstuck, you'll have to maul it and then find a replacement.
...or you could look here for pictures and a writeup.
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Originally posted by thekid+Jun 23 2005, 11:34 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(thekid @ Jun 23 2005, 11:34 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Well here is the great thing. But first lemme make sure what you've done so far. You've already been underneath the car and undone the "catch" that is there, which I have heard is very very hard to reach with a 6cly car. Then you went back inside the car, took off the trim aound the shift and shift knob off. Then you are taking a feeler gauge or something similar and releasing the other catch, wich is a severe bitch to release. THe one inside the ring with the teeth looking things all the way around. Basically it is a bitch. My mechanic told me he was not able to do it without dropping the tranny out of the 6cly models. I think he said there wasn't room for him to reach the first release, in order to release it all the way. If you've managed to do that, then getting the teeth ring looking thing out is just a bitch and it takes a while. Keep at it.
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sounds like you know exactly what i'm talking about, i'll try again tonight.

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Are you stuck here?
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Basically unless you get it unstuck, you'll have to maul it and then find a replacement.
...or you could look here for pictures and a writeup.
UNDERSTEER.COM

Good luck.
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i'll have to check that site out and see if it helps and let you guys know how it goes. it IS a bitch.


EDIT: Actually yes, that is where i am stuck. I turned the top peice as well, but only after trying to turn the lower bearing ring first because the instructions only tell you to turn the lower bearing ring, here is the link to the documentation.......

http://www.bmracing.com/media/products/pdf/28.pdf

.......and here is the product page.........

http://www.bmracing.com/index.php?id=produ...bcat=15&pid=114

.....if any of you can make better sense out of it than i could please do share, lol
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It's tough. Basically what you can do, is break that ring with the teeth. Just make sure you go and get one from the dealership, they are only few bucks. Just go ahead and break it. Take something narrow and flat like a narrow screw driver then take a hammer to it.
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well, i have a question..........with the shifter i bought............ http://www.bmracing.com/index.php?id=produ...bcat=15&pid=114 ....do i need those teeth still? i don't think it needs them, i think it has everything it needs, so could i possibly just break the old ones and pull out the old shifter and put in the new one and it be that easy or does mine still need the teeth things (bearing rings)?

EDIT: it already has the cup thing at the bottoma s you can see from the pic on that link so i'm thinking i may be able to just break the old one out and just put in the new one, that look right to you or do you still think it need those teeth things?
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well does that sound right?
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honestly I would call them if you are unsure. It looks like they think they have included the ring (from reading the instructions). Do you have something simliar?
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