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Old 04-30-2003, 03:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hey guys, im new to this place but its good to be here...
ok my car feels really weird lately. its a 1992 e36 325i and well its got a good 109000 miles on it, and it still runs like a charm... but lately when i start my car, it feels lumpy and near the muffler it almost makes like popping noises. What is the problem? is it like spark plugs and wires? or the muffler or what?

also its time for me to do my first service since i've had the car, and well i know that a service 2 at a certified bmw place is 1100 dollars! I just dont wanna spend that kind of money on a car as old as this. So i asked some non certified places and they charge like half that much. So i mean what exactly does a service cover, where could i get like a list of all the different things both service 1 and 2 cover... and also if when they service this problem with my car rattling even sitting there stopped in neutral. anything i can do myself... does service 2 cover such things as spark plugs and wires and such... thank you you guys....

hope to hear from you soon
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Find an independent Bimmer repair shop. Make sure it's a reputable one as well. Whenever I have major service issues that I can't do myself I take it to my shop. The proprietor has been an award winning mechanic when he used to work for BMW AG.

Save yourself $500 and do it at a reputable independent bimmer shop.

Here's what's involved:


BMW Inspection I

The BMW Inspection 1 Service is the smaller of the two inspection services recommended by BMW. It includes basically all of the items that assures safety and full functionality of your vehicle. Other makes and models can also utilize this maintenance program to ensure a pleasant drive and ownership (But make sure you mechanic says it is OK first). Inspection 1 could cost in the range of $200+ to $300+ depending on who you go to and also if you have any repairs. (Repair cost are not included in the inspection cost) So be prepared to spend more!. If your mechanical skills are high, just DO-It-Yourself!

Undercarriage

1. Change engine oil and filter oil while engine is at normal operation temperature.
2. Check transmission for leaks.
3. Check rear axle for leaks.
4. Visually check fuel tank, lines, and connections for leaks.
5. Check condition, position, and mounting of exhaust system. Examine for leaks.
6. Check power steering system for leaks.
7. Check overall thickness of front and rear disc brake pads.
8. Examine brake disc surfaces.
9. Clean brake pad contact points in calipers.
10. Grease wheel center hubs.
11. Check steering for absence of play, condition of suspension track rods, front axle joints, steering linkage, and joint disc.
12. Check front control arm bushing for wear.
13. Check brake and clutch system connectors and lines for leaks, damage, and incorrect positioning.
14. Check for free movement of the parking brake cables. Adjust parking brake if necessary.
15. Check all tire pressures (including spare). Correct if necessary.
16. Check condition of tires (outer surfaces (left/right)), tread wear and pattern; In case of uneven tread wear readjust wheel alignment if required.


Engine Compartment

# Read out diagnostic system
# Check engine cooling system/heater hose connections for leaks.
# Check coolant level and antifreeze protection level; add coolant if necessary.
# Check level of brake and clutch fluid in reservoir; add fluid if required.
# Check windshield washer fluid level and antifreeze protection. Fill up and/or correct if necessary.
# Check air conditioner for operation.
# Reset Service Indicator.


Body/Electrical Equipment

# Check battery electrolyte level and add distilled water if required.
# Perform batter load test.
# Check lighting system, i.e. headlights, foglights, parking, backup, license plate, interior (including map reading lights), glove box, flashlight, illuminated makeup mirrors, luggage compartment lights.
# Check instrument panel and dashboard illumination.
# Check all warning/indicator lights, check control.
# Check turn signals, hazard warning flashers, brake lights, horns, headlight dimmer/flasher switch.
# Check wiper and washer system(s); wiper blades, washer jet positions.
# Check condition and function of safety belts.
# Oil hood, trunk/tailgate, and door hinges.
# Grease hood, trunk/tailgate and door latches. Check operation of all latches.
# Check central locking/double lock.
# Replace microfilter or Acc. Cabin Filter.
# Check heater/air conditioner blower, rear window defogger.
# Check rear view mirrors
# Visually examine the SRS airbag units for torn cover, obvious damage or attachment of decals, decorations, or accessories.


Final Inspection

1. Road test with check of brakes, suspension, steering, clutch/manual transmission or automatic transmission


Inspection II

The Inspection 2 Service is the larger of the two Inspection Services and basically includes all of the items performed on the Inspection I Service along with some extras like differential oil change; fuel filter and air filter replacements; Replacement of spark plugs. Inspection 2 generally runs around $400+ to $500+. Below are the items that are normally performed.

Undercarriage

# Change engine oil and filter oil while engine is at normal operation temperature.
# Check transmission for leaks.
# Check rear axle for leaks.
# Visually check fuel tank, lines, and connections for leaks.
# Check condition, position, and mounting of exhaust system. Examine for leaks.
# Check power steering system for leaks.
# Check overall thickness of front and rear disc brake pads.
# Examine brake disc surfaces.
# Clean brake pad contact points in calipers.
# Grease wheel center hubs.
# Check steering for absence of play, condition of suspension track rods, front axle joints, steering linkage, and joint disc.
# Check front control arm bushing for wear.
# Check brake and clutch system connectors and lines for leaks, damage, and incorrect positioning.
# Check for free movement of the parking brake cables. Adjust parking brake if necessary.
# Check all tire pressures (including spare). Correct if necessary.
# Check condition of tires (outer surfaces (left/right)), tread wear and pattern; In case of uneven tread wear readjust wheel alignment if required.
# Check thickness of parking brake linings.
# Half-shafts; check for leaks at flexible boots.
# Inspect entire body according to terms of rust prevention limited warranty.

Engine Compartment

# Read out diagnostic system
# Check engine cooling system/heater hose connections for leaks.
# Check coolant level and antifreeze protection level; add coolant if necessary.
# Check level of brake and clutch fluid in reservoir; add fluid if required.
# Check windshield washer fluid level and antifreeze protection. Fill up and/or correct if necessary.
# Check air conditioner for operation.
# Reset Service Indicator.
# Replace spark plugs.
# Replace intake air cleaner element.


Body/Electrical Equipment

# Check battery electrolyte level and add distilled water if required.
# Perform batter load test.
# Check lighting system, i.e. headlights, foglights, parking, backup, license plate, interior (including map reading lights), glove box, flashlight, illuminated makeup mirrors, luggage compartment lights.
# Check instrument panel and dashboard illumination.
# Check all warning/indicator lights, check control.
# Check turn signals, hazard warning flashers, brake lights, horns, headlight dimmer/flasher switch.
# Check wiper and washer system(s); wiper blades, washer jet positions.
# Check condition and function of safety belts.
# Oil hood, trunk/tailgate, and door hinges.
# Grease hood, trunk/tailgate and door latches. Check operation of all latches.
# Check central locking/double lock.
# Replace microfilter or Acc Cabin Filter.
# Check heater/air conditioner blower, rear window defogger.
# Check rear view mirrors
# Visually examine the SRS airbag units for torn cover, obvious damage or attachment of decals, decorations, or accessories.


Final Inspection

1. Road test with check of brakes, suspension, steering, clutch/manual transmission or automatic transmission


These are the recommended interval for models years from 1986 through 1998 models, more frequent inspections are essential if driven in extreme conditions:


5,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
10,000 miles - Oil and Safety Service (O/S)
15,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
20,000 miles - BMW Inspection I (I/1)
25,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
30,000 miles - Oil and Safety Service (O/S)
35,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
40,000 miles - BMW Inspection II (I/2)
45,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
50,000 miles - Oil and Safety Service (O/S)
55,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
60,000 miles - BMW Inspection I (I/1)
65,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
70,000 miles - Oil and Safety Service (O/S)
75,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
80,000 miles - BMW Inspection II (I/2)
85,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
90,000 miles - Oil and Safety Service (O/S)
95,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)


For 1999 and later models, the recommended service/inspection intervals are as follows:


5,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
10,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
15,000 miles - Oil and Safety Service (O/S)
20,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
25,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
30,000 miles - BMW Inspection I (I/1)
35,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
40,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
45,000 miles - Oil and Safety Service (O/S)
50,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
55,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
60,000 miles - BMW Inspection II (I/2)
65,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
70,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
75,000 miles - Oil and Safety Service (O/S)
80,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
85,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
90,000 miles - BMW Inspection I (I/1)
95,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)
100,000 miles - intermediate oil service (O/F)



Oil and Safety Service (O/S)

Inspection I Service (I/1)

Inspection II Service (I/2)

Intermediate oil service (O/F)
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hey thank you so much for this list of stuff, maybe i can print it out and show them and see exactly what they will do for my car. But several of those tests seem to target things that i suspected might be the cause of my problems.

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by the way are u indian?
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Sorry, nice find John..

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