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OK, I see the previous thread is closed, but as the previous owner of a 1986 Porsche 951 and the current owner of a car that is very similar to an e36 M3 (not to mention I have driven a few of the real deals), I feel like I am an authority on the topic discussed earlier in this forum.

The 951 is the better overall car. Sorry, to say that on a BMW forum, but it is true...There is no Substitute. The 951 is one of the most balanced sports cars ever imported into the U.S. market. Tons of hp (mine was 300+) 50/50 weight distribution, and the most predictable tendencies of any car I've owned. It rewarded a driver with skills, and made lesser drivers look like pros. The ///M3 is also a well balanced car, but like the Boxster v.s. the Z4, Porsche has an uncanny ability to make cars that allow us to be safe and very fast on any road.

As for not being a true Porsche because it is water cooled? What do you think every Porsche made in the last decade has been. The 951 was ahead of its time, and the new owner of my old 951, remarked upon the initial test drive, "DAMN, this car is faster and more balanced than my 928GTS4!" (he has a fourteen bay garage full of various foreign and domestic sports cars.

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97 m3 0-60 5.5 1/4 14
86 944t 0-60 6 1/4 14.6

wasnt the m3 also voted best handling car at any price?

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porsche's are very nice cars...
their main goal is performance
as bmw's is more luxury

that being said
m3>996

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97 m3 0-60 5.5 1/4 14
86 944t 0-60 6 1/4 14.6

wasnt the m3 also voted best handling car at any price?
Neither car was designed to win races in a straight line, fast quarter mile times are merely a byproduct of a solid powertrain.

Neither stay "stock" very long, and with a decent budget, the 951 can quickly rack up a lot of hp that will easily make it faster in the quarter.

All this aside, quarter mile times and hp ratings can only say so much. What I am saying, is that I have owned both cars, and given a choice of a car to take to the track, it would be the 951 all day long...

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One thing I neglected to mention however, was ease of ownership. The Porsche was very expensive to own (as is any decade old turbocharged German sports car), and this probably caters to a vote for the BMW in terms of the better car to own.

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porsche's are very nice cars...
their main goal is performance
as bmw's is more luxury

that being said
m3>996
i would have a 996tt over a m3.

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If I had been int he market for a 2 door sports car the 944 is my first choice. But I wanted a 4 door sedan, and something that I wasn't going to have to rebuild everything on.

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Hey Kev, glad you didn't. The 944 is a dog. That car was specifically designed for the NA market for anyone who wanted to say they owned a Porsche.

The 951 was indeed a true Porsche. Turbocharged, intercooled, stiffer chasis, better suspension, and quite different in appearance when compared side by side. I will never defend the 944, but the 951 is a different car all together.

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Yeah, I would have wanted a 951, but they just would have laughed at me for insurance purposes. Or my agent would have gotten up on his desk and done a little jig.

I've seen some pretty nice race 944s. Those things were fast, one of the drivers was the one riding along with me in my jeep through an autocross. I'm not actually sure if they were 944s though, but they had the stuff for the 944 challenge all over them.

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I go back and forth wanting a 93 or so 968 s2 cabrio. I like the look, and the power seems good, but its not practical for me.

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The 968 is a good car. I would argue that is has one of the best four bangers ever made.

The 951 was anything but practicle, but the massive turbo confirmed my earlier suspicions of it being my childhood dreamcar. After paying for the car twice over four years (maintenance), I also confirmed that Porsche cars are not for poor college kids.

Next on my list is the 1988 930....

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WOW...Jllphan...that was very well put. Thanks for the backing on that one.
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That car will always have a special place in my soul. It's easy to speak passionately about a machine that can truely stir the soul.

BTW, I will scan some pics of my former baby in tommorow....

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