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#1 (permalink) Old 10-27-2004, 12:23 AM
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ok, i have a 93' 325is with an AUTOMATIC... ok, take the time to laugh now...

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ok, now when I stomp on the gas it will get going esspecially around 3k RPMs, but why is it i can't peel out, or get that burst off of the line?

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It's just because of the torque converter. If you want you can try a brake stand (sometimes called power-braking) where you put your left foot on the brake and give the car a little gas, then release the brake and squeeze the gas down.

I wouldn't really recomend this method but you can try. Also, don't bother trying to burn out in the automatic it won't be able to do it.

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what is the point of the torque converter, what does it do?

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torque converter is very interesting, u can learn about it on at


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and type in torque converter, it should come up

u can also rev the crap out of it up in neutral then pop it into drive..

lol just kidding dont do that(inside joke)
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if torque converters increase torque in automatics, why is it that manuals can apply more torque on the line and get better starts?

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I don't know about other '92 325i 5 speeds, but I can't peel out from a standing start. (I don't dump the clutch at high revs, 'cus I like my car in one piece.)

I have had one perfect shift that I squawked the tires from first to second though, it made me laugh...

You have to realize that lost traction is a byproduct of a poorly designed, or poorly maintained suspension when you have less than 200 torque. Even new Benz SLs with over 500 torque do not "peel out", they chirp the tires and that's it.

Leave the 50 foot trails of rubber to the 1960 Muscle Cars with original Bias Ply Tires...
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I would venture to say that it depends on more than just one thing... its depends on the state and type of tires your using.... for the burning of tyres part...

As for the 'wanting to take off faster from a stand still' part.... I'f I'm not mistaken automatic trannys were made with the average driving person in mind... mainly towards a smooth constant power band... not a kick in the ass from 0... but there are ways to work around this converter... but its not good on the tranny... nor is it safe...

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Your extra torque button in the glovebox....

Man, thats getting old there. I would not try and peel out and put uneeded stress on your tranny. Unless you have an M3 there really is no reason to peel out. Just remember your in a Bmw, your pimppin. Dont blow your tranny over looking cool :P

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Originally posted by xsperf@Oct 26 2004, 10:39 PM
torque converter is very interesting, u can learn about it on at


http://www.howstuffworks.com

and type in torque converter, it should come up

u can also rev the crap out of it up in neutral then pop it into drive..

lol just kidding dont do that(inside joke)
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Thanks for the reminder. I cant believe that guy actually did that.

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my friend used to have an old accord. after school he would find a hill, reverse down it at about 20 mph, put it in neutral rev it all the way up and then put it in drive.......hahahaha it was cool the first two times, it spun tires and the third time killed the transmission. we just kept rolling back. when we came to a stop, park was neutral, reverse was park, drive was 1st gear only and.......i forget but he had to trash the car. i knew better than to do that but hell yeah i will take a ride with him for shits and giggles.


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Torque converters do not increae torque in automatics. They are simply the tool that makes automatics work. They provide power from the engine to the wheels in a seemless motion with the assistance of liquid to allow for smooth seemless action in the rotation of the engine to the wheels.

Ever put 2 fans next to one another, one turned on, the other turned off? The powered fan (ie: engine spinning) can move the non-powered fan(ie: your drivetrain.) The torque converter allows for this transfer of power in a similiar manner (more complex of course)

If you want to lay rubber in auto 3 series, I would suggest increasing the pressure in your rear tires, and removing weight from the rear end (ie: spare tire) These aren't light rear mustangs that are ment to tear it up though, 189 ponies, and 180 lb/trq. aren't exactly light up the tire numbers.

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thanks for all of the input.

the peeling out thing didnt really bother me at all, but being a young'n it is cool. oh well, i can just watch my stupid hick ass friends in their trucks (everyone drives trucks here) ruin their rides and tires.

The quick acceleration was my main question. i do get one hell of a burst right around 2.5-3k and after that she goes.

thanks again for your insight.

and Redline, your story about the accord was hilarious.

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