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Old 10-16-2004, 11:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hey guys, just an hour ago, i met up with my neighbor and hewas wantingto see my new car (new to me 1995 325is manual), and so we wentto this back road, i rev'd the rpm,s and let out on the clutch, but it barely spun and caught traction alittle and started moving forward. I stopped let is roll back like a couple of inches just to get the backwardsmotion, dropped the clutch and engine rev'd fine,but i heard not tires roaring, and then you could smell like either the clutch or tires, but we thought clutch since we didn't hear my tires spinning, but my tires were warm. Also my clutch works fine when i drive it normal, its dark so i haven't had someone watch to see if they are spinning or not yet. yesterday, (only 2nd time i'd done it with this car) i droped the clutch on a hill and it spun good. Is itmy clutch or would my clutch need adjusting or what? I so hope its not my clutch. How much does a clutch cost? How long do they last with NORMAL driving, not heck driving? Please help asap. thanx all
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The stock clutches suck. Mine took about one launch and over heated. It also was close to 100% friction material when I removed it for an M3 set up.
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Old 10-17-2004, 11:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The stock clutches suck. Mine took about one launch and over heated. It also was close to 100% friction material when I removed it for an M3 set up.
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do you think there is a chance that mine could still be stock and it being a 1995 model car?
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Old 10-17-2004, 12:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I THIIINK... that mine might be stock in my 95 318...but not sure how that could be... it has almost 130 000 miles on it, and is the car that my brother and i learned on.... plus just the way i drive sometimes...
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Your's could be worse off then mine was however. Try putting it in 3rd and just dropping the clutch andnot giving any gas. If it stalls right away your clutch is good, if it stutters for a little bit your clutch is on its way out.

There's a good chance your car still has the factory clutch on it if it's got around 80k miles.
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Old 10-17-2004, 02:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Your's could be worse off then mine was however. Try putting it in 3rd and just dropping the clutch andnot giving any gas. If it stalls right away your clutch is good, if it stutters for a little bit your clutch is on its way out.

There's a good chance your car still has the factory clutch on it if it's got around 80k miles.
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haven't tried the 3rd gear stall yet, but it has approximately 124,000 miles on it. Can a clutch last that long? cause the guy i bought it from owned it for 8 years after he bought it from another guy who had it for a year and sold it. They both sold it for family reasons, but the guy i bought it from (owned it 8 years) is definitly not the kind of guy who would jerk it around and test it out. He was just wealthy and wanted a nice sporty car to drive to work and stuff. So is it possible that with normal easy driving that the clutch could be original or stock? Will let you know how the 3rd gear stall turns out.
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if i have an EXCELLENT clutch, it should go maybe around 150, but if u cluth goees at 125, sorry to say this, but that would be quite normal
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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turn your traction control off, that might help a little bit
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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hey, the guy that owned my car before me had a ton of service and maintanance records but they go back to like 2000, but there were no reports of a replaced clutch anywhere in there, there was however a record of a replaced "fan clutch" for $165.12 on 10/15/02. Is that anything to worry about? Other than that that is the only instance os the word clutch that i saw.

ans to xsperf, all i'm trying to be able to prove is that it is not exactly my fault if it starts going out soon, cause my dad told me that is i start jerking it around or anything or he hears about it that hes gonna be pissed, but i've only spun it 2 times and the 3rd try it didn't even spin, all were on different days about a week or two apart, only had the car for about a month now. Its ok if it is going out from being used for 124,000 miles and is just worn out but if i screwed it up then i'm screwed, lol. Thanx for replies. I've been looking in BMP and BavAuto at the Upgrade clutch they offer, is it really better than stock? and how much would an m3 clutch or clutch kit run me? thanx all in advanced
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Sounds like your clutch is cooked. Usually thats how they go, they're fine during normal driving, but when you dump it or floor it and rev it up to the red it will slip on you. You could of simply over-heated the clutch from repeated abuse as well.

How long do they last? Well it really has more do with the driver then anything else. Its usually the little bad habits people have that cause them to go out (assuming there not dumping the clutch all the time)

Extra revs while slipping the clutch at startup, letting the car roll back on back hills, using the clutch to hold the car on hills, then repeating thousands of times over the live of car is what leads to premature clutch wear.

I've had cars where the clutch has latest 150k (and still ticking on my toyota station car) and I've had go @ 40K (my Chrysler Conquest.... known problem areas on that car)
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I wonder if anyone else has though that a BMW isnt meant to burn out... ? I've been in many cars with people that I know can drive a car to its limits.. and they cant even let her spin from a stop... somtimes its just the car you have.... in my opinion...

I can only get my tires to spin for 15 feet or so... then they skip.. and take off.... and its all in a foward motion.... I also have 265s in the rear... a lot of rubber to be spinning...

I'd try the 3rd gear thing my self... its a good clue...

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I wonder if anyone else has though that a BMW isnt meant to burn out... ? I've been in many cars with people that I know can drive a car to its limits.. and they cant even let her spin from a stop... somtimes its just the car you have.... in my opinion...

I can only get my tires to spin for 15 feet or so... then they skip.. and take off.... and its all in a foward motion.... I also have 265s in the rear... a lot of rubber to be spinning...

I'd try the 3rd gear thing my self... its a good clue...

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ok all, i've tried the 3rd gear test twice, both same results. The car stalls immediately, not the slightest bit of hesitation (had the car for a month and stalled it twice so far, and in the same day lol). But that was a good sign for me. A friend of mine mentioned something about fluid for the rear end or something, i have no clue what part he is talking about, its over my head, but he mentioned that it might be getting low on fluid and letting the gears slip. What part is he talking about and how can i check it or fill it back up before its too late? thanx in advanced
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That would be your rear differential... that takes fluid.. but I have never heard of a case where the diff fluid would cause a stall...

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That would be your rear differential... that takes fluid.. but I have never heard of a case where the diff fluid would cause a stall...

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i'm not sure what you mean by stall, but if you mean just didn't spin the tires then yes you're right, but if you're talking about engine die stall, it doesn't die. Just wanted to clear that up if it needed it. But really i have never heard of that being the case either. But...gravel (i know is like spining in mid air, and i know its not good for your tires on rough gravel) but i live on a gravel road and i am going along at about 5 mph and floor it and it spins no problem. i that there is not nearly as much friction in gravel as there is on pavement, of course we all know that, but you would think that it would hesitate alittle or something if the clutch is about to go out wouldn't you? Well i've attached an image that is not of my engine but of an m3, just so you can get a visual since they are set up about the same. I have circled the part where i think you can smell that weird burnt pastic kind of smell or whatever. I know its like right above where the clutch is, but i'm still keeping my figures crossed that its not my clutch.

could someone tell me if a 1995 325is has a hydraulic clutch? I'm unsure about this, i think it is hydraulic but not positive. I was told that it might just need to be tightened/adjusted, but that it is more difficult if it is a hydraulic clutch. Also could you please tell me where the clutch fluid or what ever is located and how to check it. Thanx all. I never thought that i would be having problems with this car this soon, but i guess this clutch could havesome ware on it for 124,000 miles, atleast i'm not having really bad transmission problems tho.

Sorry to make this so long and asking so many questions, but i read somewhere about someone asking if they could use an m3 clutch in their 325i and i was wonderin the same, can i just buy the m3 clutch from bavauto and have it installed or will it even fit? Also are there better clutches than the m3 clutch kit in bavauto that are still in my price range ($200-$300) Thanx in advanced all. I really appreciate your helping me out here.
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It's hydraulic but there's no adjustments that can be made.
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