Ls1 In 3-series

[dvmotorsports]

I was debating wether to put a 4.0 BMW V8 or LS1 in my 318. I think the LS1 would be more efficient in every aspect.

Does anyone know where the write-up is located from the guy who did it (Canadian guy I think).

Thanks, Joe

[Johnathan_Hess]

I think putting either engine in an 3-series would be a royal pain, so you might as well opt for the better engine -- the LS1.

http://www.vorshlag.com/ls1bmw1.asp

[RedlinedRU]

better meaning hp, yes.....better meaning long term reliability, gas mileage, etc......no

but LS1 in e36 would be quite fun, no question about that.

[e36_m3_Turbo]

screws up the 50/50 weight dis.

[e36_m3_Turbo]

oh yeah. not to mention the understeer.

[Johnathan_Hess]

Originally posted by RedlinedRU@Jun 12 2005, 01:06 PM
better meaning hp, yes.....better meaning long term reliability, gas mileage, etc......no

but LS1 in e36 would be quite fun, no question about that.

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The LS1 is just as reliable as the 4.0 V8, if not more.

Gas mileage? Uh, they're both V8s, and they're both going to be similar. I get 17.4 MPG between city and highway, I'm sure the LS1 could easily parallel that.

[Johnathan_Hess]

Originally posted by e36_m3_Turbo@Jun 12 2005, 01:29 PM
screws up the 50/50 weight dis.

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I guess. The LS1 weighs less than the iron-block inline six found in the E36.

So, it'd be 45/55? Eh?

[dvmotorsports]

Originally posted by Johnathan_Hess@Jun 12 2005, 06:38 PM

The LS1 is just as reliable as the 4.0 V8, if not more.

Gas mileage? Uh, they're both V8s, and they're both going to be similar. I get 17.4 MPG between city and highway, I'm sure the LS1 could easily parallel that.

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Well I get high 17's in my 98 C5 Corvette Conv. And I use to get 16's in my 2000 C5 Coupe but it wa lightly modded.

I think there will be a mild variance due to the change in the coefficient of drag.

[Johnathan_Hess]

Originally posted by dvmotorsports+Jun 12 2005, 09:35 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dvmotorsports @ Jun 12 2005, 09:35 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Johnathan_Hess@Jun 12 2005, 06:38 PM

The LS1 is just as reliable as the 4.0 V8, if not more.

Gas mileage? Uh, they're both V8s, and they're both going to be similar. I get 17.4 MPG between city and highway, I'm sure the LS1 could easily parallel that.

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Well I get high 17's in my 98 C5 Corvette Conv. And I use to get 16's in my 2000 C5 Coupe but it wa lightly modded.

I think there will be a mild variance due to the change in the coefficient of drag.

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And how heavy your foot is.

[dvmotorsports]

Originally posted by Johnathan_Hess@Jun 12 2005, 09:21 PM
And how heavy your foot is.

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Yeah, no shit.

I can't wait. I'm shopping for one right now.

They don't seem too bad.....

LS1 used $3,000 approx.
4.0L BMW (1995) used $7,500 approx.

LS1 new $haven't looked
4.0L BMW (1995) new $9,600 (wholesale) 10,700 (retail)

I think it's obvious.

[93 325i]

The LS1 is a good motor, but it belongs in its place. It seems morally worng to put this motor in a bimmer. Let alone the fact your car will sound like a firebird, it is like your cheating. I can see your dilemma tho, if i had a 1.8 i'd be looking real quick for a solution. With that being said who gives a F!#k what I think, good luck w/ the conversion

[e36surge]

Sounds like an interesting conversion. The whole 'keeping a beamer a beamer' opinion from the BMW purists is getting a little tired. The LS-1 conversion has its merits as long as the necessary upgrades to brakes and suspension are made. If the upgrades to stopping power and handling are not made then the upgrade is a waste of money. Any vehicle on the road should be a balanced one. When the 2002 (3 series precursor) came out it revolutionized the car industry by engineering a vehicle with equalized power/braking/handling. My point is as long as you keep the car balanced you'll keep the essence of BMW even if you're running detroit muscle under the hood of a German car.

Just my 0.02$ Canadian...

[RedlinedRU]

Originally posted by Johnathan_Hess+Jun 12 2005, 07:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Johnathan_Hess @ Jun 12 2005, 07:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-RedlinedRU@Jun 12 2005, 01:06 PM
better meaning hp, yes.....better meaning long term reliability, gas mileage, etc......no

but LS1 in e36 would be quite fun, no question about that.

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The LS1 is just as reliable as the 4.0 V8, if not more.

Gas mileage? Uh, they're both V8s, and they're both going to be similar. I get 17.4 MPG between city and highway, I'm sure the LS1 could easily parallel that.

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yeah? when's the last time you saw a vette with over 290K miles on the stock engine? I know I haven't.

[e36_m3_Turbo]

Originally posted by RedlinedRU+Jun 13 2005, 08:05 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RedlinedRU @ Jun 13 2005, 08:05 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

The LS1 is just as reliable as the 4.0 V8, if not more.

Gas mileage? Uh, they're both V8s, and they're both going to be similar. I get 17.4 MPG between city and highway, I'm sure the LS1 could easily parallel that.

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yeah? when's the last time you saw a vette with over 290K miles on the stock engine? I know I haven't.

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me either... ihave seen a 2002's and some e30's pushing abot 320k miles on them. there are lik 2 that have there oringal battery....

[Rooz]

Originally posted by e36surge@Jun 13 2005, 08:41 AM
The LS-1 conversion has its merits as long as the necessary upgrades to brakes and suspension are made.

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yeah, I would imagine you would need to change a all lot of stuff other than just the engine, suspension and brakes... rear axle + gears, get car reprogramed, probably new ecu needed, basicly the all nine yards

However, if I were you, I would consider the M5 engine...

check this thread:
http://www.bimmerwerkz.com/forum/ind...howtopic=38435