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Vehicle: '95 325is

Situation: Replacing the front brake rotors and pads.

Alternatives: Do I have any OEM alternatives? Could I switch to M3 or e46 rotors? I think this requires new calipers, and I'm ok with doing that (discount through work) but I just don't want to have to change the wheels. What upgrades can I do?

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what type of alternative? upgrade or just similar useage? personally just go with some brembo rotors OEM replacement though. unless you want the look ,go for the big break kit

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Furious, I appreciate your input!

As my name denotes... I work at BMW, so I get BMW parts at a very attractive price. I can't afford to do big brakes or buy brembo products.

I'm trying to see what I can do with BMW parts from other models to upgrade my system.

I will end up asking my parts department, but to be honest, people on here have probably experimented with more swapping that the parts guys because they always suggest against swaps...

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i hate BMW OEM pads, they are the dustiest pads ive seen ever. and the rotors are ok. so dont really worry, if anything just get some new pads. maybe some EBC green stuff's or some PBR's (they are the more affordable pads with more than half the dust)

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ceramics also look good...

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Rotors off an M3 won't fit unless your get the calipers too. There's brackets to make them fit to the normal mounts. They won't fit because they're wider and have a larger diamter I believe.

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Rotors off an M3 won't fit unless your get the calipers too. There's brackets to make them fit to the normal mounts. They won't fit because they're wider and have a larger diamter I believe.

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This is true. And yes, you should definitely get better pads. My front pads are the dustiest pads I have ever seen. I hate washing every other day.

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Kevin,

So if I get the M3 Calipers... then the M3 Rotors should fit?

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Also, what's retail on these aftermarket pads?

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Hey geoff, what about the newer BMWs? Do they have dusty pads too or is this 'problem' being solved?

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dutchbmw,

To be honest...

I work in marketing and don't have an extensive knowledge of technical things.

From what I have heard, the better the brake is, the dustier it will be... Performance always has a trade off.

I'll ask around for you though!

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Originally posted by geoff@bmw@May 13 2004, 10:56 AM
dutchbmw,

To be honest...

I work in marketing and don't have an extensive knowledge of technical things.

From what I have heard, the better the brake is, the dustier it will be... Performance always has a trade off.

I'll ask around for you though!

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not always true, there are lots of dustless brake pads that are high performance.

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EBC greenstuff are great for a dustless pad. I'm not sure on the price, somebody know off hand?

If you get the M3 rotors and calipers you'd need atleast a 17 inch rim. Maybe you can get a good price on the ///M wheels at the dealer you work at.

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Green stuff is about 50 bucks a set. If you really use your brakes hard core, you can get Red Stuff for 60 a set.

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I think i'm just going to stick with the stock stuff for now...

I don't wanna mess up the breaking ratio from front to back...

I'll wait till next summer when I put 17s on and change the front and back at the same time if i feel like i'm unhappy with the stock...

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Ok, you have two options without going to a real BBK in the front.

The e46 330i front brakes fit. All you need is the front rotors, calipers, caliper carriers/sliders, and pads. Aside from that they bolt right on.

I went with the e36 M3 front brakes. There are two ways of doing this, the proper way requires the front rotors, calipers, caliper carriers/sliders, pads, and spindles/kingpins/steering knuckles. With that setup everything bolts on. I decided to no use the M3 spindles, so the back of the caliper carrier/slider needs to be machined 0.295" down around the mounting holes. Then everything just bolts on. The brakes do make a nice difference on the track. I still run the stock setup in the rear.

Basically normal e36 brakes are actually pretty good, just get better pads and you're set. And remember, your brakes are only as good as your tires.

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