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Old 03-09-2005, 08:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I need some help guys. I just got a BavAuto Chip in my car right now which is a 1992 325i. I want more get up and go power it just isn't enough. What can I get to increase it. What brands are good enough so I won't have to much trouble with my car. I might be getting exhaust, headers, camshaft, pulleys, and cold air intake. What else can I do i've been stuck thinking about this for about 2 months and still haven't decided what to do and where to go to. Price is a little tight but if good I can find some way to get it. I just want good quality stuff. Not cheap stuff that breaks down after 100 miles or so.
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Sorry to say but it will be hard to get your car real fast. A little boost are all the things you have listed. I currently only have a chip, but plan for the Cold Air Intake, pulleys, and possibly m3 cams/high performance cams. To get it real fast you would need a supercharger or turbo but that is around $5000.00 to get it and get it installed, so not really worth it.
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I need some help guys. I just got a BavAuto Chip in my car right now which is a 1992 325i. I want more get up and go power it just isn't enough. What can I get to increase it. What brands are good enough so I won't have to much trouble with my car. I might be getting exhaust, headers, camshaft, pulleys, and cold air intake. What else can I do i've been stuck thinking about this for about 2 months and still haven't decided what to do and where to go to. Price is a little tight but if good I can find some way to get it. I just want good quality stuff. Not cheap stuff that breaks down after 100 miles or so.
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well first the parts you listed will take you a while to get, so worry about getting those on your car for now. But after that you are starting to look at f/i. if you really wanted to get the aa supercharger, and regardless of what people say it is worth it, makes a 325 pretty fast haha

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m3 cams with appropriate software, underdrive pullies/crank pulley, intake, exhaust, fan delete, acs delete, closer ratio gears, forced induction.


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Yeah i am going to start slow and work my way up. Start with small stuff then hopefully get some help and buy a supercharger or turbocharger.
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Yeah i am going to start slow and work my way up. Start with small stuff then hopefully get some help and buy a supercharger or turbocharger.
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while turbochargers have larger gains over all than superchargers, they are also harder on your engine, i would say that the best/safest/most reliable of the two is the supercharger.
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Old 03-10-2005, 02:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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m3 cams with appropriate software, underdrive pullies/crank pulley, intake, exhaust, fan delete, acs delete, closer ratio gears, forced induction.


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I have really looked into Fan delete and Underdrive pullies/crank pulley.

First, I have decided against the fan delete. Other forums I've visited have said the same. Its a fluid clutch fan that connects to the crack. There is no physical connection between it and the motor. The motor only has to push the fluid around in the clutch. So it can only draw about 1-2 hp due to its light weight and acceleration is minimal on the fan it self it works kind of like a flywheel in that it has a small amount of energy comparitive to the output of the engine. Removal is not worth the risks of blowing a headgasget due to over heating in traffic one day. I'd only remove it when it a track/second car to a daily driver where it will see only open roads and holes to switch lanes through at 80mph.

Second, Underdrive pullies come in varies sets. You can just get a crank pulley to slow down your entire serpentine belt. There are sets to just replace your A/C, PS, and alternator pullies, and there are kits with all pullies. In most cases the aftermarket pullies are made from alum and are machined out to be very light weight. This reduces ertial masses. The problem I see and that was brought up in a different forum was the removal of the crack pullies effect on the balance of the engine. At 6000rpm you don't want parts flying all over in the internals. My choice would be to purchase a set for underdrive pullies for the A/C and PS pump and a light weight alternator pulley due to the fact I have increased draw from audio equipment. I think you can find these for about $150-$250 in multiple colors.

I got lucky and found a '96 328is with a Dinan chip and CAI when I bought it. Before I had a stock '95 325is setup. I feel that the CAI is the place to go. You may be about 2-3 whp but the throtle response is right there. I can be crusin in fifth gear on the highway at 2500rpm and put it to the floor and I got power instanctly to pass a car or just to fuck with some guy in a ricer or even worse a piece of flying tupaware aka Saturns. The Dinan Carbon Fiber unit is great. I have inspected the install on my car and it seems to be very easy to tackle in 2-3 hours. I've seem them on ebay and I'm sure you can get it for a steal on there verses the dealer price. I'm not so fond of the short ram air pipes with the baffle boxes to seal the air intake out of the engine bay. The engine heat will still heat up the plastic or metal box surrounding the filter. This is why I feel you need to get as far out as possible.

As of today I have just order my SuperSprint cat-back exhaust with the DTM tips. I paid $615 shipped from GMP Performance. I'm looking for sound increase as well as performance gains and that is why I have held off on the underdrive pullies.

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I need some help guys. I just got a BavAuto Chip in my car right now which is a 1992 325i. I want more get up and go power it just isn't enough. What can I get to increase it. What brands are good enough so I won't have to much trouble with my car. I might be getting exhaust, headers, camshaft, pulleys, and cold air intake. What else can I do i've been stuck thinking about this for about 2 months and still haven't decided what to do and where to go to. Price is a little tight but if good I can find some way to get it. I just want good quality stuff. Not cheap stuff that breaks down after 100 miles or so.
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www.uucmotorwerks.com has some good info on pulleys. Power pulleys seems to make some hp all the way up the rpm scale. If you are going with CaI, a cat-back system would be nice. If you are going to pack more air in, you need to get more air out. Headers, from what I've researched, are expensive. Cams certainly help, also expensive.
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Old 03-10-2005, 11:06 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 03-10-2005, 01:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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you're only sayin that cruzin because you drive a 323 : ) hahah jk

seriously, though, nothing wrong with supping up your bmw. Everywhere I go, people try to race it, it's retarded. I started modding heavily because I wanted to make sure I stomped those ricer idiots....
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For someone who did all that research Im a little surprised that your first purchase is an exhaust that you are expecting gains on. I hope that you bought more for the go fast sounds then expecting to go fast.

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an exaust is a great start to being modding, but it won't give you the most HP :P
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Indeed, I just found it interesting that the person dismissed some many mods because of concern over little HP gain, then drops $600 on an exhaust that gonna give him 1 to 2 HP gain.

If your resourceful you could of gone with:
Fan delete
Pulleys
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for about the same amount of cash as the exhaust.
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true but a free flowing exaust is very necessary when adding more mods to a car :P
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True, I've always been a big believer in the more air in more air out theory.
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