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k heres the link again http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...1&category=6763 but this DOES NOT look like it will fit into my car! the ATF thing i think thats what it is called is in the way! for this really long intake system! What do you guys think, cuz right now i just have an intake head on there and it wont go past it with the MA sensor on there well do you think this intake head is smaller or what? or should i just not buy it cuz it doesnt look like it is going to fit! please help!
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Can someone please help me understand this crazy fascination with CAI kits? I realize that a car that breathes better runs better (and generates more hp) but your talking about an investment of $150-500 for a VERY MINIMAL increase in hp. I guess if you bought a decent CAI, chip, and some Bosche Platinum+4 plugs: you might incur a modest blip in hp. But a four cylinder car is made for economy not performance.
--Don't mean to sound like a jerk, I just hate to see good people (especially Bimmer owners) throw money at something that isn't going to reusult into much.
--I would love for someone to prove me wrong and prove that a CAI ($350) makes a huge difference over a cheap upgrade like a K&N ($50).

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i agree with jillphan go with active autowerks thing it is way better and for the amount of work u are doin it isn't worth it



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cai's don't really warrant their costs imo at least not the 250-500$ people spend on them. Why not take $60 and a few hours and make your own?
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once again that did not answer my question haha, but i have another question about it now, with the silicon piping that goes from the start of the intake onto the OVAL throttle body opening. When i would go to instal this i would take off the stock black silicon piping right> and then put on the new silicon piping, but theres a breather hose coming off of the stock piping, so do i need this with the new intake or what? cuz i know when i took it off today my car died right away is that due to the air leaving the silicon piping, of that breather not sucking in anything? Thanks

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AA Tuning E36 6Cyl Intake $350 shipped.

BUT you can modifi it to fit your 318.

Let me know

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Bigred that will fit your car it doesn't go where your power steering pump is (i think that is what you mean by ATF thingy). It follows the fender down the left side and the pipe fits thru a small opening where your horn is. You actually have to take the bumper off and put the filter on from the underside. It will sit where the brake duct is (if your car has em, not sure on the 318). And the cai is to be used in conjunction with other components, most people don't buy just a cai, but you can feel more torgue even without mods.

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AA Tuning E36 6Cyl Intake $350 shipped.*

BUT you can modifi it to fit your 318.

Let me know
The intake in that link will not fit your car.

What year is your 318? I believe all 318's had the MAF sensors and you can't remove it. You should NOT remove the rubber hose that comes stock with the car. There's a PCV return hose that's attached to it. If you unplug it or leave it open the car will die. Your only option is to get an adaptor for the MAF (right before the stock airbox) and either attach a cone filter, or attach a metal 90 degree pipe that will go down to the brake duct. I paid $90CDN to have an exhaust shop weld me the pipe and about $40 for the K&N cone filter. That totals only $120CDN which is a pretty good intake. I have no envy of the shinier more expensive aftermarket intakes.

At first, the first modification I did was my Dinan computer chip. After a week I removed it. I then installed a bored out throttle body, a CAI and a cat back exhaust system. I then reinstalled the chip. It made the biggest difference of any modifcation I have ever made. That combo will definitely give you some nice grunt. When I race my buddy's 318's, I'm amazed as to how many car spaces I can beat them by.

Anyways, hope that answered your question. I'll post some pictures of my setup later and show you what I have done.

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buy it... it will fit.......the intake however will not replace the MASS AIR SENSOR. It will bolt on to the front side of the MAS and go from there, so you will still utilize the rubber hoseing from the throttle body to the MAS, thus extending the filter and tubing down to gather nothing but cold air. example, my intake that I posted a while back that if you failed to look at you wouldn't have to ask these questions..




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No, actually it won't fit. I think you need to research your answers a little more before you post. I have experience because I've custom fitted lots of CAI's which were made for 325's but installed in 318's. It's not even worth the hassle. You have to make several modifications to the brackets and even cut the pipes down to make them fit. The 318's intake is mounted completely in a different position than the 325. It won't be simple bolt-on like for the 325. You have to purchase an extra adaptor for the MAF (not MAS). Then you can clamp the silicon tube onto the adaptor. Because of the MAF the intake is much too long. After you cut up the tubing to make it shorter I'm skeptical as to whether or not the 90 degree bend would go directly down to the brake duct due to the intake positioning. The 318's intake is mounted at an angle.

Here's a picture of the adaptor you will require. Usually $20-$50. Try to find a tapered one.

Try to find an intake kit made for your car. I know it's difficult as not too many companies actually make them for 318's. You could always try to make your own. As I've suggested before, try to go to an exhaust shop. A more professional one should be able to make all the measurements for you and custom make you a pipe for no more than $80-$100.

Good luck.

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An early custom made design. I made this for my car and it took me a couple of hours. However, I wasn't happy with the results and I'm trying to come up with something else now. It's not a CAI intake the filter was too large to jam through the small hole where the brake duct is.

I posted this picture to show just how little space there is for piping. There's only a few inches of space for piping before the pipe needs to bend down 90 degrees. So there is no way in HELL that intake you posted will fit, unless you feel like spending all that money just to butcher it up.

See how the intake on the 318 is angled downwards? The pipe bend must be completely different inorder for it to fit. The intakes made for 325 actually bend too much because they sit more bolt upright as you can see in the picture bimmerfan620 posted. So simple answer, don't buy it.

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I agree now seeing the setup on the 4 cyl. I wouldn't get that. Honestly, on the 4 cylinder, your not going to see much improvements with a CAI alone. even with an exhaust you won't. 4cylinders just don't have a ton of low end torque, and adding a CAI to it alone will give you some high end but you will end up losing a lot of the little bit of torque you have low end... just not worth it... and yes I meant MAF, I was typing Mass air flow sensor and typed the abreviation wrong.. But you could always build a custom turbo kit for your 4 cylinder.. that would always work...



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I would get it. You can't go by the picture. The auction states "Picture shown might be different from actual kit".

And did you read this part:
"BMW E36 318i/is/ti 92-95 1.8L models (fits only on M42/B18 engines). ADAPTER for air mass meter is including.

* Please specify the model and year of car when Email.

** Professional installation highly recommended for this intake system, instruction sheet included. "

Well if that is your engine and car... this will fit.

The seller only has about .5% neg. feedback. Thats pretty trustworthy to me.
I say Go for it!!!

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Unless you knew exactly what you were buying, I wouldn't buy it. The picture is already very misleading. Why wouldn't he post pictures of the exact kit? Plus, you should buy the CAI where the filters are placed "above" the brake duct. From the picture you can see the pipe is so long this kit obviously elimiates the brake duct. You don't want the filter inplace of the brake duct. You will have problems for sure sucking in water and it will get dirty very quickly.

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ahhh, true cold air intakes shouldn't be installed for a daily driver anyway if you are affraid of sucking in water or dirt... 1. dirt doesn't bother anything if you have a good filter, and 2. water is nothing if you have a bypass valve installed in your intake..... Main thing is, I would try it then if it states it is for your specific car, year, and motor.... if it doesn't fit exactly, then you can either return it to him, or report him to ebay where as he would get suspended if he's selling things he doesn't really have.. and with the amount of feedback he has i don't think he's selling bad parts or would even be willing to risk that.



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