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Old 09-04-2004, 09:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Topic says it all. I want to purchase this kit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...&category=42613 and i'm not sure if i have the european ellipsoid headlights in my 97 328is. It appears that the lens is removable because it looks like theres a clip attatching it on the top but i am not certain.
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Old 09-04-2004, 05:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yours are probably not European Ellipsoids. I don't think they came on any N/A models (maybe the first few?)

European Ellipsoids are glass, instead of the plastic we have. And they have horizontal lines across the glass...
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If your headlight assemblies are oem, and your car is per North American spec (i.e. made for America, you don't live in Europe or something), then yoy don't have ellipsoids. The only way you would, would be if the previous owner upgraded them, but this is doubtful.

Notice how my headlights below have a projector lense (or ellipsoid) that focuses the light unto the road rather than a refector style headlight that comes from the factory. Keep in mind you could still use the rings, but it would probably look kinda silly.
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Old 09-04-2004, 08:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Look at the lense. if its glass, you have projectors. ikf its plastic, you don;t
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Old 09-13-2004, 10:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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hey, i have a 1995 325is, and it has been well kept, but i don't think the previous owners have replaced the head lights. as far as i know, they are plastic instead of the euro glass lens, so should this mean that the angeleye rings on ebay Will or Will Not work? can the plastic lens be removed to insert the rings? Couldn't tell from the posts thus far, i'm confused, not sure what the ZKW or Depo headlights are, but want the angeleye look. please help asap. thanx
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the factory NA spec lenses can be removed, but its not worth it to do so. ZWK/DEPO are manufacturers of ellipsoids. So, yes, they will work, but they aren't worth the trouble (you literally have to bake the headlights to melt the adhesive to get the plastic off).
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the factory NA spec lenses can be removed, but its not worth it to do so. ZWK/DEPO are manufacturers of ellipsoids. So, yes, they will work, but they aren't worth the trouble (you literally have to bake the headlights to melt the adhesive to get the plastic off).
oh, and then to put them back together you re"bake" them or just use silicon? I want the angeleyes, but not for the price of 300 to 500 dolars, thanx for eye El Presidente.
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you dont need to rebake them, just use a good sealent.

You know you can buy DEPO projectors w/AEs pretty cheap on ebay. The rings aren't the highest quality, but you get a much more functional mod along with it.
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you dont need to rebake them, just use a good sealent.

You know you can buy DEPO projectors w/AEs pretty cheap on ebay. The rings aren't the highest quality, but you get a much more functional mod along with it.
really? i will look for those then. i was just wondering about the angeleyes rings from ebay cause i'm helping a friend install them.......do you know where i can find installation instructions for them tho? for a 1993 325i? I wanted them for my 1995 325is, but i will try what you are saying. Please help on installation instructions tho asap, thanx
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AEs are a breeze to install if you buy them with ellipsoids. all you have to do is splice the plight wire.
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AEs are a breeze to install if you buy them with ellipsoids. all you have to do is splice the plight wire.
how is it that they are wired up to work during the day? is that only if you turn your headlights on during the day? So basically the toggle switch would be the headlight switch or do they run constantly? I'm good at wiring electrical stuff,but i just have to understand how they are meant to work first. thanx please help asap
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to wire them so they are in the day they have to be wired to a switched 12V ignition line and not any part of the headlight. wires.
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to wire them so they are in the day they have to be wired to a switched 12V ignition line and not any part of the headlight. wires.
That is how i thought it would have to be wired for daytime use without the headlights, but is that the way most people are wiring them up or what? And how would you wire them?
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eyah theres a guy that sells deops wth AEs in them on ebay for around 280ish if you want to go that route

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I think most people who want them on during the day would simply them in to the plights and use the switch. If I were to do it, and use a switched 12V, I'd tap the temp sensor to use as a trigger for a relay and power the AEs with a relay.
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