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3-Series (E36) Chat relating to the BMW 3-Series from 1992-1999. Autodoodad Specific models include: BMW 316i, BMW 318i, BMW 318iS/ti, BMW 320, BMW 323, BMW 320, BMW 324, BMW 325, BMW 328.


       
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Old 11-02-2004, 05:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Who said that turbocharging a bimmer isnt a good idea. Have you ever heard of low compression pistons or head spacers??? A good turbo kit is the best and most expensive upgrade you could do. Also nitrous is as safe for bimmerz as it is for hondas, you guys have been watching to much Fast and the Furious. Just run a wet nitrous kit, I have seen some some 3s run lean out due to fuel shortage. Try a cold air intake with a K and N, exhaust, short shift, and a chip if you have a short budget. Those mods definately have the most bang for the buck.
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Old 11-02-2004, 05:51 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I already know about comrpession pistons and head spacers, but you are lookign into droppign a whole lot of money into it if you really need to change it. I can't remember the ratio for the e36's btu im sure it is somewhere in like 12's or 13's. If you go with a hardcore company that knows hwo to do turbo upgrades on BMW's then you will be fine, but most of the time htese involve a long drive. Such as AA tuning which I believe is located in the southeast of the U.S.

And nitrous sucks rotten ding dongs.


well m3mobbin just made me feel like a dumbshit on AIM. I was wrong it isn't that high. he says the 325 is 10.5:1 and the M3 is 11
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Who said that turbocharging a bimmer isnt a good idea. Have you ever heard of low compression pistons or head spacers??? A good turbo kit is the best and most expensive upgrade you could do. Also nitrous is as safe for bimmerz as it is for hondas, you guys have been watching to much Fast and the Furious. Just run a wet nitrous kit, I have seen some some 3s run lean out due to fuel shortage. Try a cold air intake with a K and N, exhaust, short shift, and a chip if you have a short budget. Those mods definately have the most bang for the buck.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:31 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I think most things have been covered here, one thig though these engines are absoultly bullet proof, I know a guy that was running nos through a E30 325 and was getting 350whp with standard runnig gear! he sold it after about a year so no doubt it hasn't lasted but it had 200km on it when he started "not to sure how many when he sold it" but It was still runnig like a dream, tell me another car which could do that?

I figured with my 328is mtec, lets say that its about 200hp "can we agree on that?"
with most mods done to the engine with out forced induction I could squezze about 70-75hp out of the engine for about $3000, these engines are very very restricted factory setup. if I had a manual I would do it, but I hate auto's and I don't think there is much point, so I spent 2000 on suspension instead, its a very quick car "on a open road"

forced induction- your looking at the sky is your limit! but as above things start to get rather expensive once you start talking Turbo's, I'd rather see a super charger on a BMW but both work well at low boost,

I think at the end of the day it comes down to how much you would pay for (HP) as you know ownig a civic you can get some rather impressive HP gains for vey little money and power to weight makes a civic a pretty quick car! as you will see though if you go BMW power isn't everything with a bimmer you get the hole package, "handling, power, stlyle comfort, etc) and I have no doubt at all that you would find more enjoyment out of any BMW standard than what you did out of your civic!,

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Who said that turbocharging a bimmer isnt a good idea. Have you ever heard of low compression pistons or head spacers??? A good turbo kit is the best and most expensive upgrade you could do. Also nitrous is as safe for bimmerz as it is for hondas, you guys have been watching to much Fast and the Furious. Just run a wet nitrous kit, I have seen some some 3s run lean out due to fuel shortage. Try a cold air intake with a K and N, exhaust, short shift, and a chip if you have a short budget. Those mods definately have the most bang for the buck.
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Your right about turbocharging. BMW's Vs. Honda is entirley diffrent when running NOS. We are talkign about a high Compression engine on a BMW. If your goign to do NOS stick to no more then a 75 shot. Yes, never run straight NOS into your engine. If NOS is done right its hard to beat for its cheap price. Run the nos through your direct port and your goign to need to run a additional fuel pump. IMHO dont run the NOS you will like the car more without it, more enjoyable, and fun
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Originally posted by ///M3 FX+Nov 3 2004, 02:58 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(///M3 FX @ Nov 3 2004, 02:58 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Your right about turbocharging. BMW's Vs. Honda is entirley diffrent when running NOS. We are talkign about a high Compression engine on a BMW. [/b]

Actually, nitrous is okay to use on a high compression motor.

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If your goign to do NOS stick to no more then a 75 shot. Yes, never run straight NOS into your engine. If NOS is done right its hard to beat for its cheap price. Run the nos through your direct port and your goign to need to run a additional fuel pump. IMHO dont run the NOS you will like the car more without it, more enjoyable, and fun[/quote]
I agree with all of the above. My background is mostly Mustangs and I know a lot of people that spray their motors regularly at the track. However, most of them are already running 13's and 12's N/A and dropping down to 11's at the track on juice. Using nitrous on a 15second car is only going to make it feel that much slower when off the bottle. If you plan on building a forced induction street car, do a turbo or a SC.
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if you wanna go fast you shoulda stuck with the honda
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Your right about turbocharging. BMW's Vs. Honda is entirley diffrent when running NOS. We are talkign about a high Compression engine on a BMW.
Actually, nitrous is okay to use on a high compression motor.

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If your goign to do NOS stick to no more then a 75 shot. Yes, never run straight NOS into your engine. If NOS is done right its hard to beat for its cheap price. Run the nos through your direct port and your goign to need to run a additional fuel pump. IMHO dont run the NOS you will like the car more without it, more enjoyable, and fun
I agree with all of the above. My background is mostly Mustangs and I know a lot of people that spray their motors regularly at the track. However, most of them are already running 13's and 12's N/A and dropping down to 11's at the track on juice. Using nitrous on a 15second car is only going to make it feel that much slower when off the bottle. If you plan on building a forced induction street car, do a turbo or a SC.
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Yes its okay to use on our motors I was just implying that our motors are diffrent turbo it its alot better.
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Yes its okay to use on our motors I was just implying that our motors are diffrent turbo it its alot better.
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Yeah, I was pretty much agreeing with you... just adding a little to it.
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