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Old 05-29-2013, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Help with caster on e36 m3

Hey everyone. Need help. For some reason my front driver side caster is pushed forward almost causing tire to rub on bumper when passanger side has about 1" 1/4. Tryied turning driver side shock tower and found out that adjust camber. Looked under car to inspect for any suspension(control arm, sway bar, tie rod) damage but didnt find any that was noticeble to me. Please help. I want to fix this issue before buying new set of coilover suspension. Any ideas of possible issue. Thanks in advance
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Old 05-30-2013, 05:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Anyone that can help me out please. It drives me crazy not knowing what it can be.
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A picture would be way more helpful. Your saying the whole wheel and front shock has shifted forward correct?
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Sorry for the late response vader. But answer to ur question, no the shock is not bent is just that the front driver side wheel is very close to bumper comparing to passanger side. Ill post pics tomorrow for a better anderstanding.
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Pic of passenger side. As u can see I can put pencil in between bumper and tire.
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Pic of problem side(drivers side). As u can see, I cannot put pencil between bumper and tires. Hope this helps u guys understand what am talking about and be able to give me some ideas .
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Wow. I have 18" wheels and even I have more clearance then that.

Places like Bimmerworld sell front Caster kits. Something like that should help.
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Vader, could it b that previous owner hit something and bent control arm? I compared both n they look equal. Would hate to invest money for end results to be the same. Drives me crazy. I'll look into them caster kits. Thats buddy
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They would have had to bent both control arms for both sides to sit that far forward. And if they bent them you would know. A bent control arm causes tons of issues.


This is what mine looked like completetly stock:


This is what it looks like with 18" wheels:
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Yeah big difference. I was looking into bimmerworld for camber/caster adjustable top plates and they run around $300. Am planning on getting full adjustable suspension all around and some come with the adjustable plates. The cheapest i have found go for around $700(bc or d2 brand)which am ok paying the amount if is worth it. Are u familiar with any of these brands? are they even worth considering? Price rightnow is an issue since dont want to pay more than $800. Do u have know of any good suspension for that price range?

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Just remember, you get what you pay for. Raceland or other lower brand name coil overs are okay for basic street use, but terrible for any kind of track or spirited driving.

Honestly, the only coil over set ups I will look at right now are Ground Control, TCKline Racing, and FK. The Ground Control/Koni kit runs about $1,000.

TCK:
http://www.tcklineracing.com/webdocs...Details144.cfm

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http://www.ground-control-store.com/.../II=756/CA=174


ECS Tuning though has numerous coil over kits though. Some as low as $600.

I got this off Bimmerforums and I think it should help:
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You have different tiers of coilover kits:
1) Garbage dampers without adjustment, with garbage springs at fit-all rates that you don't pick. These are basically springs and shocks with adjustable ride height.
2) Garbage dampers WITH adjustment, with garbage springs at fit-all rates that you don't pick.
3) Bilstein based kit with without adjustable dampening and fit-all spring rates (eg H&R)
4) Bilstein based kit WITH adjustable dampening and fit-all spring rates (eg PSS9)
5) Off the shelf Koni based kit with fit-all spring rates (eg FK SIlverline)
6) Off the shelf Koni based kit with different spring rate options (eg Ground Control Street kit)
7) Koni based kit with custom valved, shortened shaft Konis and different spring rate options (eg TC Kline SA, Ground Control Street/School, etc)
8) Custom made dampers with different spring rate options (eg AST, Moton, etc)


When buying a coilover kit, ask yourself a few questions:
1) Do I need the adjustability, over a spring and shock setup?
2) Who makes the dampers, and are they adjustable?
3) Do the dampers have shortened shafts, custom valving,
3) What are the spring rates, are they fit all, do I get to pick my own?
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Right now i have bilstein shocks(front have adj damper) with h&r springs front and back. They feel ok i guess, but at the same time dont have anything else i can compare with since is my first bmw. I know bmw suspension come pretty stiff from factory according to other bmw owners. I really dont feel any body roll when cornering so thats a plus i guess. So in your opinion should i hold off on suspension and just go to my other upgrade which is wheels? But ofcourse i will b taking care of my caster issues first by buying top adjustable plates cause i u already know there is no way ill b able to fit any bigger wheels with caster the way it is
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This is how it sits right now with blistering shocks n lowering h&r springs
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Hard to tell from the angled side profile. A full side shot would be better. It might be worth going to an alignment shop and seeing what they think. Your running 17"s right? Whats the tire size? I run 18"s but I have more clearence then that cause I have lower profile tires. Has the clearance always been like that with those tires or is this new?
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225/45/17 but since i got car thats how driver side been. I just replaced tires from 235/40 to 225/45.
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