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#1 (permalink) Old 08-24-2004, 07:26 PM
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Hello all, hope someone can help. I bought a 98 328i last year and it's been running great. However, 3 weeks ago I parked it and after 2 days I went to take it out and it would not start. The car cranks and cranks but it doesn't start. I noticed that if I press the gas it does start. If I keep my foot on the gas pedal the car remains on. As soon as I take my foot off the gas pedal the car shuts off immediately. Has anyone experienced this? If you have, what was the fix? What was the issue? I'd like to have an idea of what I'm going to be spending without getting ripped. Should I take it to BMW or can I take it to a regular mechanic. Any advice is greatly appreciated. THANKS! George
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I would find a trusted auto mech around town.. and take it to them.. when it comes to something of this nature.. it is probably best to get it looked at.. due to the possiblility that it might be more than one thing... or a variation of many. Sometimes things get out of control with these cars...

Sounds like your ICV ceised up on you...

Like I said.. it could be a multitude of things... I'd get it checked out.. just to make sure.

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Hello everyone. Les, thanks for the suggestion about having the car checked. I still would like to know though, if anyone else has experienced this and what I could be looking at as far as costs. I have very light pockets and I can't afford to be overpaying. This is my first and only "high end" vehicle I don't want it to be the end of me. Is there anything I should know about these vehicles with regards to age and mileage? I got the car at a local mom & pop dealer last August. The car had 73K miles, and it still had some time left on a BMW certified warranty. Since I got it, I have had the water pump, catalytic converter and heat thermostat changed under warranty. The warranty expired back in February. Now besides the car not starting I have an orange-redish light in the dash saying Service. I called BMW and they said it was an $850 job based on the age and mileage of the vehicle. Is this standard? Is the "job" worth it? Again the car is a 98 - 328i - 87,500 miles. Automatic if it makes any difference. Al advice is appreciated.

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my manual car was like that. My car would not start up but i keep on adding gas and it worked. I was told that this was caused by "flooding" the engine with too much gasoline.
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I had the same problem. Keep reving the engine, rev it really hard if you have to. Eventually the rpm's will stick and bam, you're good to go.

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Hi, thanks for the replies. I thought about that, when this happened. I turned the car on and revved the engine for about 2-3 minutes at around 1-2 thousand rpms. When I let the gas go it went off immediately. I also tried driving around the block a couple of times. That was an experience. LOL. Each time I reached an intersection I dropped it into neutral and kept my foot on the gas pedal and the brake. What was even harder was starting up. Keeping my foot on the brake and the gas and putting it in drive. Anyway, I drove it around for about 5 minutes but as soon as I parked it and took my foot of the gas it just shut off. I've had some friends suggest that the fuel pump might be shot. Could this be so?

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Could be your fuel pump, but most cases car does not start and just tries to turn over. Anyways, check you icv. Maybe not enough air/fuel mixture?

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Hey cool328i, rev it harder then 1-2, go like 5 or 6, do it a couple of times and then let go of the gas.,

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Iantosca, just tried your suggestion. Started the car and revved it at 5-6 rpm for about 15-20 secs 3x's. No dice. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it shut off.
Also, now the "check engine" light is on.

Thanks anyway.
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Weird, I had the same exact problem and that did the trick. On mine though the check engine light was always on when the car shut off. Sorry man wish I could've helped a little more.

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Well, I have found some literature that seems to point my problem to possibly being a faulty ICV. A few of you suggested this and I didn't know what it was so I ran some google searches. Can anyone tell me where it is in a E36 engine. I'm not at all a mechanic but I am a bit handy. Are there layman tests I can try to see if the ICV is faulty? Would I be able to remove it? Are there special tools that are needed?

Thanks for you help.
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Originally posted by cool328i@Aug 28 2004, 11:55 PM
Well, I have found some literature that seems to point my problem to possibly being a faulty ICV. A few of you suggested this and I didn't know what it was so I ran some google searches. Can anyone tell me where it is in a E36 engine. I'm not at all a mechanic but I am a bit handy. Are there layman tests I can try to see if the ICV is faulty? Would I be able to remove it? Are there special tools that are needed?

Thanks for you help.
I had that problem recently and the Dealership found the Air Mass Meter/Sensor needed replacing. After paying the about $500 everything is perfect now.
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cool328i, when/if you correct the problem please let me know what it was. I definatly have/had the same problem and I need to correct it also. ghead

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Well, here's an update. I got up a 9am today and proceeded to attempt to take the manifold off the car (wish I had a manual). I took everything within site apart (air mass meter, throttle, hoses, electrical connections) but I could not get the manifold off. There were a couple of nuts that though I could touch, I could not get to them because you had to come straight up at them from underneath. They were the only thing left that could have possibly been holding the manifold in place. Anyway, after 2hrs of being frustrated by this I gave up. ghead I looked in through the manifold slots and use a long wrench to tap (a bit hard) what appeared to be the ICV. I put everything back in place and would you believe the damned thing started! . Don't know if it was the tap or the fact that I unplugged and disconnected everything and reconnected everything. But something did it. I took the car on a 50 miles drive and the idle remained at 500 rpm never fluctuating at all . Seems to be fine again. I shut it off and restarted it at least 10 times. Turned on every time.
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definately not the fuel pump! If that, or the fuel pump relay goes bad, you literally won't be giving it any gas at all. it just won't start or run for that matter... It definately sounds like it is the idle control valve since it won't idle without a little help from the foot. Might want to make sure that it isn't idling too low. That can be adjusted. does it shut off instantly when you let off the gas? or just sort of chugg then shut off? If the 02 sensor is going bad it will shut off when you let off the gas. Usually though, if it is the 02 sensor your car will seem like it wants to shut down when taking off from a stand still or when coming to a stop. hope this helped a little...
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