handbrakes

[ihsaan]

why is it that with the 95 corrola & 93 vw golf handbrake turns are so soo simple? with the e36 325 u gotta pull the lever quikly & still u dont get the full effect? is it maybe cos the rear wheel also uses disk unlike the latter mention'd which i think uses drums? also, would u bugger ur engine by always red lining it? a fried of mine blew his piston (but that had nos).

[2.link]

I always wanted to try pulling my ebrake and turn.....

[alanh]

even though i think that horrible its probaly just cause you can't break traction as easy because it a BMW

[El Presidente]

OK, lets examine this one step at a time.

1. Aforementioned cars are FWD
2. BMWs are RWD.
3. Handbraking FWD locks rear wheels, gas still powers from wheels
4. Handbraking RWD locks rear wheels, you loose gas hence power to carry you thru turn hence momentum hence you stop.

[2.link]

Why don't they lock the front? Then you could just pull the ebrake and lit em up, smoke everywhere...hahaha.....can you change it to lock in the front?

[El Presidente]

the primary purpose of t the e-brake is to stop the car in the event of brake failure. The e-brake also uses separate pads for stopping. It is designed to lock only the rear wheels, so that in theory you retain steering control.

I suppose you could rig some system that locks all wheels when it is pulled, but it would be simpler to disable the ABS if you wanted to smoke your tires. to lokc the front and rear you would need to run a new cable to the front and install a secondary brake on the front axle.

[Furious]

because pulling the handbrake on a fwd car induces oversteer. pull it in a rwd car it doesnt really do much but stop you. you have to manually turn the car really hard to get it to do very much..
because of the amount of snow here, i mess around in both rwd and fwd cars.

[schilke]

Man, you gotta respect your ride. A BMW isn't somethin you can just beat on!!!!

[///M-P3NgUiN]

if you want to screw up your e36, fine, but dont ask us for ways to do it. what kida fool handbrake turns in a BMW?!?!?

http://home.triad.rr.com/skammich/open.html - ishaan, this is what you should do (this link for him ONLY)

[alanh]

The e-brake also uses separate pads for stopping.

are you sure? i thought it just mechncily squezzes the pads or shoes(depending on the car.
oh except the discs that have drums inside(is that what you speak of?

[Furious]

its pretty simple if you want the back end to swing out, turn the wheel drop a gear and hit the gas, you'll be drifting iin no time

[El Presidente]

Originally posted by alanh@Dec 7 2003, 04:11 PM

are you sure? i thought it just mechncily squezzes the pads or shoes(depending on the car.
oh except the discs that have drums inside(is that what you speak of?

Some cars use a separate pad becuase the cable is attached directly to it. It would be very hard to pull a hydrolic caliper shut, whereas a mechanical clamp is easy to pull. It depends on the brake system--some ebrake are an integral part of the main brake and others arent. I'm not sure what the e36 uses, but I'd guess its a separate brake. Ill go check my book and report back in a sec.

[El Presidente]

OK, somebody moved my book. Ill find out tomorrow.

[El Presidente]

indeed, the e36 uses a separate set of shoes for the e-brake that are located behind the rotor and directly to the cable and lever.

[whitebeemer328]

you can put a paportion valve for the brake so whe you hit them just the front stay on also known as line locks there pretty cool to have