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Old 10-18-2005, 11:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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H&R Cup on an E36 Convertible

I find myself in the market for a new suspension. Shocks and springs (and of course the rear shock mounts). I have read through the forums and the H&R Cup kit tends to get pretty solid kudos all around.

Howevever when I start to look for them online I see that a lot of the ads say "except conv". So am I SOL? Or is there an H&R Cup kit that will work with my '94 325ic?

If not, are there other recommendations out there for a good kit? I don't mind the extra cost for dealing with adjusting camber, but want ower, and better handling then stock.

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also would you want sport or race? Sport is a litle less of a drop, more suited for everyday driving, and well race is a stiffer ride, more of a drop.
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Hes talking about the cup kit Nick.

Are you sure you want a cup kit? They drop the car pretty low. At that price id probably recomend a different brand coilover suspension.

But if that is what you want, I did a quick google search.

http://www.m3motorwerks.com/products...php/II=80/PA=0

That says its for your e36
This product is applicable to the following vehicles: 2000 BMW 323Ci | 2000 BMW 323Ci Convertible | 2000 BMW 323i | 1998-2000 BMW 323ic | 1998-1999 BMW 323is | 2000 BMW 323iT | 2001-2005 BMW 325Ci | 2001-2005 BMW 325Ci Convertible | 2001-2005 BMW 325i | 1992-1995 BMW 325ic | 1992-1995 BMW 325is | 2001-2005 BMW 325iT | 2000 BMW 328Ci | 1999-2000 BMW 328i | 2001-2005 BMW 330Ci | 2001-2005 BMW 330Ci Convertible | 2004-2005 BMW 330Ci Performance Pkg | 2001-2005 BMW 330i | 2003-2005 BMW 330i Performance Pkg


And as far as that website goes, im nto too sure. They say it onl lowers your car 1.4 inches at four corners, when ive known for the cup kit to lower the front about 2 inches and the rear about 1.75 inches, which are pretty agressive drops when it comes to BMWs.
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Definitly a daily driver, so sport is appropriate in this case.

Thus the reading I'd done indicated the H&R would be a good fit. However if they won't work with the convertible I'm toasted on that front.

So far I cannot find a site that explicitly says whether a version for the convertible is supported.

I'm open to recommendations.

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Just looked, H&R Coilovers for your cabrio are about $1100. They are great coilovers and wont slam your car like the cup kit.
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That's a significant price jump. But may be worth it in the long hall. Cosmetics wise I'm not worried about a 1.5 inch drop, with a camber kit mechanically it should be fine.

Ride wise is there an impact between the cup kit and the coilovers that merits an additional $350?

PS: Thanks for the assist on finding the Cup kit answer.

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I personally dont have any experience with the cup kit, but seeing as how it drops your car 2 inches int he front im more than willing to bet its one of the harshes rides around. Both of these dont have adjustable dampeners, which is what you should ideally look for. And that is also a extra few hundred. Honestly there are other suspensions out htere cheaper and still great. You just need to keep looking. Iwould recommend TEIN but I dont think they have a coilover system for the e36 3er yet, just M3.

Something you really should consider instead of a coilover system or Cup Kit is just matching up some other shock/struts with some nice sport springs. This goes in reference to what 94BMW325 said earlier. He was asking if you wanted the Sport H&R spring or the Race spring. Obviously you picked Race and thats a mcuh better choice fo ryou. As far as shocks and struts go you can pick up some great Bilstein Sport shocks to go with those H&R's. Thats a very very popular setup among e36's and all BMW's in general. Another great setup is using the Eibach Pro Kit springs wiht those bilsteins. Those bilstein sports are great shocks but if you are looking for the best stand along shock/strut system that doesnt include coilovers I recommend the Koni Adjustable shocks. These have those ajdustable dampeners liek I mentioned. This allows you to adjust how soft or stiff you want your ride. And since im sure someone like yourself wouldnt always want your car on full harsh/stiff these would be advantageous to you. Honestly I havent done much research into convertible suspension but im sure all these options ive told you about are availible.

Something thats a great time saver is for you to call up turnermotorsport. Head over there their website at www.turnermotorsport.com and find thier phone number. They would defintely let you know your specific options. And make sure to bring this information ive told you to them and see what they have for you.

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