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Old 05-20-2004, 10:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are the European Ellipsoid headlights I hear about an aftermarket thing from Europe or are they the lights that came on European e36s?
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yes, they are German {HERE}
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Thanks... but more specifically...

Did they come stock on German BMWs?
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Yes. They did.

If you're looking for headlights use your connections, I think KamikazeNYC has some X5 projectors?

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Yea, I'm trying to see if I can get some through my connections...

I'm a newbie when it comes to lighting....

Can you add projectors (X5 lets say) into the Ellipsoids? Is this done easily?
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I've no idea, I was hoping Kamikaze would join in right about now.

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I think I have a link on the conversion somewheres...

It wasn't hard.

And actually, the ellipsoids were standard everywhere but NA.
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What do you mean add projectors? The EuroSpec ellipsoids have projectors in them...
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jllphan... Thanks for the clarification!

So with European Ellipsoids (which are projectors), can you just buy the xenon equipment from a newer BMW and hook it up to the projectors?
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Im the headlight expert, El Presidente is the xenon expert, but yes. I wouldn't search for oem xenons rather there are aftermarket companies that have kits for ZKW, inpro, etc. ellipsoids.

Bohmen is one such company. Check autowerks.com

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Correct. You can purchase a relativly simple to install HID kit from them for $380 with a color temp of 5000k. You xan bluer ones if you like, but I did it for the lighting, not the look. I originally ordered that kit from a different company, but was sent a Hella kit instead. $400 was what I paid, and it was very much worth it.
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jllphan & El Presidente... u guys ! thanks...

You're going to be hearing from me alot... sorry but I like to be really educated b4 a purchase.

So, this is what I plan...

1. European Ellipsoids
2. Some sort of OEM Xenon (I'm an OEM fiend because I can get it cheap...)
3. Can I easily retrofit Angel Eyes (DDE I believe) into this equation?

I want to stay OEM for the cost aspect (seems weird to say that)....

Anyone know the part # for European Ellipsoids?

**EDIT: I think I found the numbers...
Left: 63 12 8 363 495
Right: 63 12 8 363 496

Can anyone confirm?
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Dont have the number handy, but the NA spec are 63 12 1 468 865/866. They don't match any other ellipsoid numbers I have for older models, so those should be it.
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So are these Ellipsoids plug-n-play?
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not quite. Since you are getting yours from the dealer, you will also need the european headlight harness. The ellipsoids have 1 input for both bulbs, and you will need to cut your harnesses off and hardwire to the new harness, or see if you can buy a PnP kit from an ellipsoid retailer.
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