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e36 roof lining sagging

hey guys n girls

anyone got any tips how to fix roof lining on e36 coupe, my cars roof lining is hanging from the rear windscreen edge - but theres no clips - how do you stick it back , whats the best method , I thought of using glue but seems messy and ideas

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over here, we take it to an automobile upholstery guy who'll install fresh fabric. sorry man
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over here, we take it to an automobile upholstery guy who'll install fresh fabric. sorry man

great idea , thats if my car was on MTV's pimp my ride , But I have not got the dollars to buy a new roof ,, i think I will have to go for the glue method ..cheers anyway
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This may help:


It's pretty bothersome to do, but it works out well if you are patient..

There are a couple ways to do it yourself. one is fairly quick and not too messy, but it doesn't always turn out very well, and the other is very messy, time consuming, and often frustrating.

The reason for your headliner falling down is that the foam or glue on the foam that holds.the headliner cloth to the cardboard (or whatever) headliner "board" deteriorates with age, and turns into crumbs and goo, and can't hold together any more. It usually will last at least 10 years before it starts to let loose.

You can either re-glue the cloth up with a lot of spray adhesive (3M Super 77 is the most commonly used one, about $6 -$8 for a large spray can), or replace the foam with new, fresh foam and either use the original cloth or some new cloth, and still use the same spray glue.

The cloth used on the headliner is very stretchy and thin, and probably came form the manufacturer with the foam pre-attached to it, so that the car maker could just glue it to the headliner board, stamp it out and stuff it into the car. I you replace the old foam and go to reuse the cloth, it probably will stretch out a little larger than it was before, not a problem, as long as you don't wrinkle it.

The easy, fast way is to spray the glue through a little hole in the cloth with a tube, so you don't have to take everything apart just to re-stick it up again.
Don't use so much that it soaks the cloth!
Often this winds up lumpy,cratered, or wrinkled, but only people in the back seat will usually notice it much.
Most people don't care, as long as the headliner isn't in their hair.

The slow, bothersome way is to
1. remove the interior window trim and
2. either the headliner cloth or the whole headliner, and
3. scrape all of the foam crumbs off, down to the solid board,
4. get as much crumbs off the cloth as possible,
5. cut fresh foam for the headliner,
6. spray glue on the foam and the back side of the cloth,
7. glue them together, and
8. then glue them to the board,
9. put all the trim back and
you have a nice, long lasting headliner.

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It's pretty bothersome to do, but it works out well if you are patient..

There are a couple ways to do it yourself. one is fairly quick and not too messy, but it doesn't always turn out very well, and the other is very messy, time consuming, and often frustrating.

The reason for your headliner falling down is that the foam or glue on the foam that holds.the headliner cloth to the cardboard (or whatever) headliner "board" deteriorates with age, and turns into crumbs and goo, and can't hold together any more. It usually will last at least 10 years before it starts to let loose.

You can either re-glue the cloth up with a lot of spray adhesive (3M Super 77 is the most commonly used one, about $6 -$8 for a large spray can), or replace the foam with new, fresh foam and either use the original cloth or some new cloth, and still use the same spray glue.

The cloth used on the headliner is very stretchy and thin, and probably came form the manufacturer with the foam pre-attached to it, so that the car maker could just glue it to the headliner board, stamp it out and stuff it into the car. I you replace the old foam and go to reuse the cloth, it probably will stretch out a little larger than it was before, not a problem, as long as you don't wrinkle it.

The easy, fast way is to spray the glue through a little hole in the cloth with a tube, so you don't have to take everything apart just to re-stick it up again.
Don't use so much that it soaks the cloth!
Often this winds up lumpy,cratered, or wrinkled, but only people in the back seat will usually notice it much.
Most people don't care, as long as the headliner isn't in their hair.

The slow, bothersome way is to
1. remove the interior window trim and
2. either the headliner cloth or the whole headliner, and
3. scrape all of the foam crumbs off, down to the solid board,
4. get as much crumbs off the cloth as possible,
5. cut fresh foam for the headliner,
6. spray glue on the foam and the back side of the cloth,
7. glue them together, and
8. then glue them to the board,
9. put all the trim back and
you have a nice, long lasting headliner.


cheers matey


i think il go with the 3m spray glue less messy - I forgot about that stuff ,,nice 1
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As many of you have found out using just spray adhesive behind your Old Headliner will not resolve your problem.

The Original Headliner Material from the Manufacture is only 1/8th inch thickness including the Cloth and the Foam Backing combined. From age and heat the foam backing as you have experienced has deteriorated and become a powder form and the cloth has nothing to attach to!

By spraying a Wet Spray Adhesive on the back of the cloth with out the foam backing in place will only bleed through to what you feel is the cloth material in good shape on the interior exposed side, but now you have a bigger mess than before you started trying to fix your old headliner from falling.

I would recommend purchasing a box of regular thumb tacks and tack it up until you can either replace the old Material with New Material in which includes the New Foam Backing your self or have a professional shop take care of the problem for you.

Cutting a small hole into your Headliner & Injecting Adhesives with a syringe does not work!

Spray Adhesive on the back side of the cloth with out the foam backing does not work either!

We have the OEM BMW Materials in stock, these are not after market materials found here in the USA at most Upholstery Shops or supplies houses or even Jo-Ann Fabrics. These are the Original 1/8th inch Headliner Materials that were installed a the BMW Plant when the cars were being Built.

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We have kits for most BMW Models with enough OEM Material to resolve your headliner issues including the proper High Temp Spay Adhesives designed for these applications.

Any time you need instruction on how to install, please feel free to contact me and ill walk you through the process myself.

Let me know how i can help in any way. Bill

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thanks ..but i sorted my roof lining , i injected some grip adhesive , then held the roof with tape to let the adhesive stick better, left the tape for 48hrs, then removed the tape . and valou job done .. no more saggig roof,
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