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I know a couple people that have them.. said they are pretty good... they like them.... I dont... I like a little bit more stiff ride than that..... the Bilstein shocks I have are exactly what I wanted... but its a personal thing I guess.... I like to be able to feel the road....
Honestly, springs are springs (unless you buy it off ebay and autozone) there's not much to it. I personally think its more of a name thing. I also have Eibach and they work great (I of course also have Bilstein sports). Just remember to get new shocks with it too caused its not worth it to change only springs if you want to get that full "new suspension" feel. As far as the best springs for a BMW probably H&R or Eibach are the best.
Originally posted by eskiasu@Jun 27 2004, 09:25 PM (I of course also have Bilstein sports).
I dont have the sports.... an no... a spring is not just a spring.... they have different spring rates... for different levels of stiffness.... its actually rather competitive and complicated to tell you the truth... If you buy a shitty spring... you are gonna get a shitty ride...
Agreed, I have Eibach pro kits and they are much more progressive than the H&R sports. Eibach's are more suited towards street and occasional track. H&R is definitely more agressive and stiffer. I'm swapping to H&R's sometime this summer. There's nothing wrong with the Eibach's, you'll probably never know the difference in handling on the street compared to H&R. It all depends on how bad the roads are where you live. Stiff suspension isn't so great for rough and bumpy roads. For some reason, H&R is also significantly cheaper than Eibach, probably because they're made in the US. Anyways, Eibach makes a much better street spring. Also, Eibach springs tend to sag a lot more so it'll actually be lower than the H&R's. Both springs are good and serve their own purposes.
When I say Eibach's are progressive I mean they start off soft, then when the limits are reached they get stiff, not so great for the track and it tends to give you some funny hanlding, like snap oversteer.
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I know that if you buy shitty springs you get shitty shits. That's why I reccomend either H&R or Eibach because I know they're great. For spring rates, I know there is one but its not that much difference between the two companies. Also, if you want a really stiff ride, try the Eibach sportline. A freind of mine has it and it feels like your riding with metal pipes for suspension.
Interesting... hmm sportline... I'll see what I can dig up... I think another buddy of mine is thinking about those... I'll see what he has dug up....
Autotechnica... did you just say H&R are made in America.... I think not... they are pure German.... if I'm not mistaken.... If I am wrong... please tell me... I might be....
Originally posted by eskiasu@Jun 27 2004, 09:50 PM I know that if you buy shitty springs you get shitty shits. That's why I reccomend either H&R or Eibach because I know they're great. For spring rates, I know there is one but its not that much difference between the two companies. Also, if you want a really stiff ride, try the Eibach sportline. A freind of mine has it and it feels like your riding with metal pipes for suspension.
Actually, the spring rates are very different as I mentioned in my above post. I know because I sell H&R and Eibach springs for a living :wink
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Originally posted by 97alpineM3@Jun 27 2004, 09:53 PM Interesting... hmm sportline... I'll see what I can dig up... I think another buddy of mine is thinking about those... I'll see what he has dug up....
Autotechnica... did you just say H&R are made in America.... I think not... they are pure German.... if I'm not mistaken.... If I am wrong... please tell me... I might be....
You might be half right. H&R has a factory in the US and they are made there. They probably started out as a German company. Whereas Eibach springs say "Made in Germany", H&R springs don't. Perhaps some of them are still made in Germany. However, the H&R factory where I order my springs from in the US manufacter and stock them in their factory. So I order direct from the factory.
Bry
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you can't go wrong with eibach springs. But I just ran accross an E36 318i with the springs from bavarian auto and they looked great, rode good and the car seemed to handle well. They only droped 1 1/4 inches I think. I actually just orded some because they are currently on sale. I'll let yall know a little bit more about them once I get them on. THey should be in on tuesday.
Reading all this just gives me more suspension woes. Pro Kit plus Koni Adjustables, I'm set. my sways will be to firm up the corners at the track. Roads are shitty around here so progressive is the way to go for me. But, will I be riding on the bump stops? Auto, that was to you, and so is this... How much for the pro kit pre 5/92?
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I decided to go with H&R sport springs with bilstein shocks. Would this combo lower my ride height and how much. Im running on 17" M5 rims but i want a nice enough drop so that theres no space between the tire and fender.
Will the H&R; Bilstein combo work out to lower it a good amount??
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