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Old 12-30-2005, 10:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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e36 m42 to m50

Hello, well this has been posted a billion times, but when i search i dont find what i need, I want to swap out the m42 to a m50 non-vanos 2.5ltr, I believe the tranny and differential are the same as on the 4 and 6 cylinder non m-cars,i think, What years are the 325 m50 engines non vanos? What exactly do i need, i would use a m3 flywheel cultch config., i know the suspension could handle it because the non m-cars use the same suspension parts(some one who did a differential swap said that they are the same dimension only difference is the axles are larger, plus the car has billet shock mounts, and koni coil-overs, uuc shifter, and OEM m68 staggered wheels, I am opting for the non M engine because parts are easier and cheaper, also it can be turbo-ed a lot easier. Would all i need to is switch harnesses,ecu, radiator, what else?

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Old 12-30-2005, 11:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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the only e36 325 non-vanos that i know of are the 1992 models, after that they all came with vanos i think. just curious tho, why wouldn't you want vanos? so "it can be turbo-ed a lot easier"? i've never heard that before, maybe true, not sure, but it looks to me like you'd be better off turboing a vanos engine, wouldn't that give you more control over the firing? and there are plenty of turbos produced for e36's that are made to work with vanos engines.

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The non-vanos engine is 1992 0nly. 318's used the getrag 200 tranny until 9/92. After that, they used the getrag 250, same as 325. I don't what year your 318 is, might be good idea to check date of manufacture. There's really no need to spend the extra bucks for the M3 flywheel and clutch, the 325 assembly should be plenty.
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yeah sorry what i meant was the six cylinder is easier to turbo then the 4 cylinder, i guess the vanos would be easier to do, obd 1, of course, what exactly do i need, oh yeah and my car is a 10/92 so the trannies are the same,
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yeah sorry what i meant was the six cylinder is easier to turbo then the 4 cylinder, i guess the vanos would be easier to do, obd 1, of course, what exactly do i need, oh yeah and my car is a 10/92 so the trannies are the same,
oh i see,
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yeah sorry what i meant was the six cylinder is easier to turbo then the 4 cylinder, i guess the vanos would be easier to do, obd 1, of course, what exactly do i need, oh yeah and my car is a 10/92 so the trannies are the same,

You would need the engine, 1995 was last year of OBD1, clutch package if not with engine (usually not). The entire exhaust system, the DME, probably many bits and pieces. Don't know about rewiring. Has someone on this site done the swap? Maybe they will chime in.
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actually non-vanos is the best e36 motor to turbo,vanos is too restrictive..... nobrakes, ur local, y dont u come to the meets?
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actually non-vanos is the best e36 motor to turbo,vanos is too restrictive..... nobrakes, ur local, y dont u come to the meets?
he is correct in this statement. the non-vanos engine was built stronger than the vanos engines, even the S50. the reason being is that the block is different, allowing for more thickness between each cylinder making the overall design stronger. also, the non-vanos engine uses hotter cams and comes with a dual valve spring setup. the non-vanos intake cam can be switched to the exhaust side and you can buy a schrick 256 intake cam and have the same setup as the S50 for half the price. the dual valve springs will also allow 7500rpm in stock form. and by not having vanos, you have one less thing to worry about breaking.
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What meets are you talking about? the one in Cerritos? ive been twice, some really nice cars there!!!
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What meets are you talking about? the one in Cerritos? ive been twice, some really nice cars there!!!
wtf?? lol holla at me next time u come!
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bump...NOBRAKES, have you gone through with this swap??

I'm planning on going through with it also...only thing thats bothering me is the tranny and differentials..people are saying that i wont be able to go over 90.

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