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Old 08-10-2009, 04:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I would like to know the difference between the camshaft on a E36 318i with Cambelt and one that has a Chain Drive.. are the camshafts the same, and do the pulleys that fit on the end have the same attatchment. Can the pulleys be swapped over..

my camshaft has one lobe worn down and im running a cambelt, but i can only find second hand ones with chain drives in my local area.

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that would be a probable no. they wouldnt suit each other at all, the teeth would be completely different in shape on a chain drive
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Old 08-11-2009, 05:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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that would be a probable no. they wouldnt suit each other at all, the teeth would be completely different in shape on a chain drive
hi,

thanks, but that doesnt help, i needed to know if the pulleys are interchangeable. i can get a chain drive camshaft no problems, id like to be able to take the chain drive pully off the cam and fit the cambelt pully onto it.. so far i have conflicting views from all sorts of sources but cannot find a definitive answer to this simple question..
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dont beleive it.. but its tru

just been on website, Cheap Car Parts, Engines & 4x4 Parts. Used Euro Car Parts & Spares From Online Breakers and out of all the dealers and scrap merchants in the uk there isnt one single camshaft available for a an e36 1.8i with a cambelt pully... i tried to ring them and was in a cue for 1hour and 18minutes before i gave up...

someone please help me solve this simple question, i even rang BMW and they dont know.. what the hell is going on in the world..

a repeat of the question: does the pulley from an e36 1.8i camshaft fit on the camshaft that has a chain drive fitted...

help help help ple ple please
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what engine model is it
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what engine model is it
its a J registration, E36 1.8i, thats all i know about it, it has a single overhead cam

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I do not believe that they are interchangeable because the mounting points on the end of the cam are likely different between the chain driven and belt driven variants. I would also image the length of the cam would vary as well due to the difference in the driving mechanism.
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I do not believe that they are interchangeable because the mounting points on the end of the cam are likely different between the chain driven and belt driven variants. I would also image the length of the cam would vary as well due to the difference in the driving mechanism.
thanks, after scouring the internet and talking to hundreds of different people, i have finally found someone who has a camshaft for a 316i with a belt drive. now this gives me the other obvious question.

Is the 316i camshaft the same as the 318i camshaft. surely the only difference between a 1.6 and 1.8 is the size of the pistons and cylinders.

look forward to your reply, thanks.
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thanks, after scouring the internet and talking to hundreds of different people, i have finally found someone who has a camshaft for a 316i with a belt drive. now this gives me the other obvious question.

Is the 316i camshaft the same as the 318i camshaft. surely the only difference between a 1.6 and 1.8 is the size of the pistons and cylinders.

look forward to your reply, thanks.
DIFFERENT... valve timing design also varies in proportion to displacement. I might fit, but performance will suffer somewhere along the power curve.
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Yes...the motors are both very different and like Darkhorse said, performance will suffer because the cam is not designed for that particular motor. It's just going to cause more problems than solve.
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Yes...the motors are both very different and like Darkhorse said, performance will suffer because the cam is not designed for that particular motor. It's just going to cause more problems than solve.
thanks, but i have since learned that the camshaft for the 316 & 318 are infact the same camshaft, if you try and purchase one you will find that one cam fits both... headache solved.
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Really, I find that to be really unusual. Is the part # the same?
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thanks, but i have since learned that the camshaft for the 316 & 318 are infact the same camshaft, if you try and purchase one you will find that one cam fits both... headache solved.
it looks the same to the naked eye.

But, the cam lobes will have different open and closing angles.

**unless the part numbers are the same.. i will not take a chance. :-)
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my apologeez.. sorry, i didnt see it properly, must have been tired from all the searching, the codes looked the same on my crummy monitor, but now i can see the 318 and 518 are the same, the 316 and 318 are indeed different.. wooops. but this is what i found

BMW 316 318 518 M40 ENGINE CAMSHAFT KIT INC 8 ROCKERS on eBay (end time 01-Sep-09 17:38:16 BST)

i know it sounds silly, but you wouldnt beleive how long it took me to find just that.. i think ebays search engine sux
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just fitted the camshaft to me Beemer and oh what a difference, incredibly quiet engine, smooth as silk, only one problem now, when i stick it into drive the revs drop and it hunts, making the car go up and down as if i was lifting and lowering the clutch in a manual.. i found a split in the idle control pipe and sealed that but it still tends to hunt. its only when i stick it into drive that it starts the hunting, which also means it does it when i come to a stop and waiting to go, which means im having to left foot break and hold the throttle a smidge to keep the revs to 1000 to stop it... any one got any ideas?
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