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Old 12-05-2003, 11:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hi guys did my 1992 318i came with those light?, I am from australia btw, i want to order a set of angel eyes for my car and i dont know if i need to purchase these euro lights that they require, my lights uses H1 bulbs thats all i know. please help auction ends in 28 hours...
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nope, ellipsoids is a pretty modern invention. it only comes stock on the newer e46 models. you have to buy those first and then you can get the angel eyes too
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I don't get it?...I have a 94 325is what are ellipsoids etc...what must I do to make it look/have the angel eyes look?....sighing.....thanks.
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ok, ill break this down for everybody...the e36 bmw (years 92-98) had halogen lights. they had a plastic housing as well. the new e46 bmw's came out with a new thing called euro ellipsoid headlights, i believe bmw refers to them as xenon lights. when you turn them on they auto-adjust themselves to the right hight. they are also wayyy brighter and last longer than halogen lights. they also have a glas housing around the light itself. you dont have to have ellipsoids to use angel eyes, but its way easier to fit and works wayyy better with them.
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Old 12-06-2003, 01:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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heres the upgraded euro ellipsoid headlights

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Old 12-06-2003, 01:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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the massive lighting power of ellipsoids

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thats why they call you the///Man! thanks. the ones you shown are they still plastic housing or glass and where/how much to acquires theses...I dont really trust ebay etc....
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the exterior part is hard plastic so it wont break easily, but the part on the inside in front of the actual light is glass. those are umnitza lights. they are one of only 3 companies thats approved by bmw. you can get them at a great price from the forum sponsor right now in the store section. the group buy price from europersona is $390 Shipped for the ellipsoids. the group buy for the dde(angel eyes) is 225 shipped. heres the link to the group buy
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compare those to these stock bmw ones

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the man is wrong.

You do have ellispoids if your asembly uses h1.

While what he said about the e36 is true for North American models, ellipsoids are not newly invented nor were they not used on the e36. In fact, even euro e30s have ellipsoids. The european models had to have some way of producing more light so it would be safe to drive on the autobahn at high speeds. With halogen reflectors, the light distance is not high enough. The projectors focus the light and send more light forward but detract from ouput from the sides. I do not know why the DOT didn't allow the use of ellipsoids in earleir models, but i would speculate it would have something to do with loss of side illumination.

Xenon lights also use projectors for the same reason. It should also be noted that ellipsoids are not HID, but they are in the picture the man posted. An HID bulb in a true reflector setup would be blinding, hence why the e46 has projectors. HID can be added to ellipsoids by purchasing D2R bulbs and a ballast.
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goodjob at breakin it down guys
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yea, i was talking about the north american models so i wouldnt confuse him....
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thanks for all teh reply guys. So should i get the euro lights before getting the angel eyes? or should i just save my money and just buy the rings?? i tried to search teh net to see if there is any info about which models came with the euro lights but no luck yet....
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you have to have the euro lights before getting the angel eyes, it wont work otherwise...correct me if im wrong here
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no, you dont have to. you already have them. The man gave you info on NA spec.

Austraila isn't near North America last time I checked, so you are good to go.
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