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Old 03-23-2005, 10:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hey what up

i have hear some really good things about the Koni Cup Kit. I found it on Tirerack.com for $700. Which doesn't sound awful if it owns up to its reputation. My question is concerning the drop that it gives you. It says the front will drop 2.1"!!! And I have 18" wheels with 225/35/18 on, so I REALLY don't want to rub. And it sounds as if I would stand a good chance of it with this kit. I would just like your reviews and suggestions

I also saw the Koni shocks with H&R springs. the performance springs hsould lower about 1.5" which sounds a lot safer. However, I think that package is a little more than the cup kit, and I have heard hte cup kit is better. any reviews would be great. thanks.,
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hey what up

i have hear some really good things about the Koni Cup Kit.* I found it on Tirerack.com for $700.* Which doesn't sound awful if it owns up to its reputation.* My question is concerning the drop that it gives you.* It says the front will drop 2.1"!!! And I have 18" wheels with 225/35/18 on, so I REALLY don't want to rub.* And it sounds as if I would stand a good chance of it with this kit.* I would just like your reviews and suggestions

I also saw the Koni shocks with H&R springs.* the performance springs hsould lower about 1.5" which sounds a lot safer.* However, I think that package is a little more than the cup kit, and I have heard hte cup kit is better.* any reviews would be great.* thanks.,
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Check out page 21 on this forum. There is an article by someone called "blacktape" who instllalled a H&R cup kit on his car. He seems to like it, but I don't think he has 18's.

The H&R kit gives you about the same lowering as the Koni.
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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the "suspension upgrage" thread by black tape does not speak of the cup kit
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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why don't u get the coilover springs... and then u can lower it all u want
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too much money. too harsh.
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the "suspension upgrage" thread by black tape does not speak of the cup kit
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It's under "just got my suspension installed" thread by "black tape". someone asked him what kit he had and he answered "H&R" cup kit. lowered it 2.1 inches in front and 1.5 inches in back. He even put pics up on the thread. Anyway, he seems to like it.
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i thought i heard somewhere that the h&r cup kit is a waste of money. it lowers the car too much and the spring are not stiff enough so the car bottoms out and is bouncy. i have bilstein sport shocks with h&r sport springs. it is a great combo. different setups are going to vary in price for a reason: quality.
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Cup Kit = Too Low/Too Soft = Bad. Get H&R Sport springs and Bilstein Sport dampers.
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uhh... lets be more specific with the above information.

First of all the Cup Kit, I have only heard good things, except that it puts too much rear camber and causes excessive tire wear with out the use of camber plates to adjust.

Second H&R sports are the springs that only lower .75 inches and do not have a higher spring rate. Are these the springs that you (collectively) are reffering to?
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