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#1 (permalink) Old 04-16-2005, 01:26 PM
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Like I hear all about these strut mounts and stuff

are bmw' frames like shitty? that they bend easy unless u have one, cause I take corners pretty fast and hard?

and ive also heard of sub frame failure,

mines a 94 does that affect my car

and is the strut thingies only like when u push your car to the limit all the time?

or is it just to make it handle better, but not really preventative

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Shitty frames? No

Its all the same if its an e36, year doesnt matter for handling issues, im not aware of any changes to strut mounts or suspension pieces. The only thing that affects cornering on my 328 are the shitty brakes and how they cause me to smash in to parked Mercedes c230s whilst leaving black clumps of brake dust on the wheels.

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Sounds like somebody is angry because they weren't looking ahead far enough...

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I think what your talking about it rear shock mounts.. its a rubber like bushing that wears faster than most in the rear.... cheap to replace. And very common on all e36s... does not effect handeling unless they are worn way beyond limits...

About sub frame failure.. yes this is true for non M and Z model e36s... its common with a good deal of tracking.. and or older models... they sell reinforcement kits... look into them... www.turnermotorsports.com sells them.

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I think what your talking about it rear shock mounts.. its a rubber like bushing that wears faster than most in the rear.... cheap to replace. And very common on all e36s... does not effect handeling unless they are worn way beyond limits...

About sub frame failure.. yes this is true for non M and Z model e36s... its common with a good deal of tracking.. and or older models... they sell reinforcement kits... look into them... www.turnermotorsports.com sells them.

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i mean i drive my car hard, but not track hard
and it's a 94?
u think it's neccesary
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when u mean you corner hard??? u mean your makeing a 90º turn at like 60??? because thats hard...

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for the love of god please push your BMW hard once in a while. responsibly of course.

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No BMW have had frames since the 50's :wink

The upper strut mounts take the beating mainly from going over bumps and such.
It's not really cornering hard that eats them, but merely bumps in normal driving.

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for the love of god please push your BMW hard once in a while. responsibly of course.
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Amen to that :-)

And yeah again on the 94 thing since he asked yet again, the body of the cars were the exact same for like 8 years... so YES even because it is a 94 this applies to you. If your rear shock mounts go then you'll hear something in your trunk that sounds like loose metal rattling around.

But if you drive your car hard you do have to take responsibility for things like this and assume it's going to wear out faster than normal. My daily driver is a 2003 pontiac sunfire and after 20k miles I had already blown both of my shocks and both struts and tore up my front rotors pretty good. But I'm square with that because I know how I drive

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so are the strut mounts easy to fix

and Im talking about sub frame failure, with driving hard in bmw's will that most likely happen?

it says on this website usually only 92 and 93 models?

any info? thx
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I have driven the piss out of my car and all I need to do now is get some new LCA bushings in the front since mine are feeling a little loose and I put CHEEEEP aftermarket ones in there about 15,000 miles ago and they already feel loose, and get a fresh set of shocks since mine are slowly becoming bouncey.

If you are worried about the subframe failure from cornering under load and shifting very hard, then get some reenforcement plates welded at the subframe mounts. What happens is the metal can tear after repeated, hard abuse and once it tears, it will get worse and worse.
Automatic transmissions have a little less of a problem since they can't exactly shift too hard without causing problems in the transmission.


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but should I worry about it, does it happen to a shittton of people?

and are they hard to install?
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Like everything in life, it will break down over time........ doesn't matter what you do, components will fail. The more aggressive you are driving, the harder you brake, the heavier your foot, the harder you take that corner CAN (and probably will) be a factor in lifespan of the components that make up your vehicles.

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