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Old 03-08-2005, 09:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My clutch is starting to chatter a bit and I assume it is on it's way out. I have shopped for several different types and think I will go with a Stage II clutchmaster kit from bimmerworld. Anyone have any insight on this kit??

Also I see that no kit contains a new flywheel. Do I have to replace this as well when doing the clutch? I never had to have a clutch job done before. I see the lightweight ones but most are over $500 and I dont want to spend a grand on just clutch parts..
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you normally don't change a flywheel unless it's damaged
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I know that to inspect the flywheel you need to remove the clutch and measure if it's thick enough (maybe you'll need to sand it down)

How is a good way to check the flywheel if its really damaged without actually removing the clutch and inspecting the flywheel?

i need a new clutch but don't know if the flywheel is bad. when i release the clutch pedal the car makes a noise (like a chopper) could that be the flywheel or just the the pressure plate?
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So basically get the clutch kit and hope the flywheel could be reused.. gottcha thanks..
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If your flywheel is ok you can buy an upgraded clutch that will fit it from clutch masters for under 400$. If the flywheel is bad you will want a lightweight one for an M3 or M5 clutch.
If you do the m5 route I think you will spend almost 1000$ or more in parts but clutch rattle will be eliminated because of the sprung hub m5 clutch.
I just bought a lightweight Fidanza for the M3 clutch, an M3 clutch kit, pilot bearing, slave cylindar, and 320 tranny mounts (they are thicker) for about 750$ for everything. That price is from months of internet searching, you could easily pay 900$ for the exact same parts if you are not carefull. Good Luck
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If your flywheel is ok you can buy an upgraded clutch that will fit it from clutch masters for under 400$. If the flywheel is bad you will want a lightweight one for an M3 or M5 clutch.
If you do the m5 route I think you will spend almost 1000$ or more in parts but clutch rattle will be eliminated because of the sprung hub m5 clutch.
I just bought a lightweight Fidanza for the M3 clutch, an M3 clutch kit, pilot bearing, slave cylindar, and 320 tranny mounts (they are thicker) for about 750$ for everything. That price is from months of internet searching, you could easily pay 900$ for the exact same parts if you are not carefull. Good Luck
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hey, kevin325i helped me with my new clutch setup for my 95 325is, here is the link he suggested...

http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/cata..._pg1.htm#item2

...and i'm getting the one for the 96-99 3.2 engine. I found a good used 95 m3 flywheel on ebay for like $95 with shipping. Do you know if there is anything special (modifications wise) that you have to do to get the m3 setup to work in my engine or should it all swapout nicely?
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...and i'm getting the one for the 96-99 3.2 engine. I found a good used 95 m3 flywheel on ebay for like $95 with shipping. Do you know if there is anything special (modifications wise) that you have to do to get the m3 setup to work in my engine or should it all swapout nicely?
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With the M3 flywheel, you need all M3 clutch parts. Clutch, pressure plate and throw-out bearing. I read somewhere that you need the M3 slave cylinder, but not sure about that.
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the clutch super kit i'm ordering includes the following:

Three piece Sachs clutch kit
New Pressure plate bolts
New flywheel bolts
New flywheel seal
New Transmission mainshaft seal
New selector rod seal
New exhaust gaskets
New pilot bearing
New release bearing spring clip
New clutch pivot pin
New slave cylinder
New slave cylinder hose

...these are all m3 parts.
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Now available from Pelican is our clutch super kit for the E36 BMW. In this kit, you get everything you need to replace your clutch all at once. All the parts contained in the kit are either OEM or genuine BMW parts. If you are spending the time and effort to pull your engine out of your car, you might as well make sure that you are replacing and fixing every piece that might need attention, while you have access to it.

also, does anyone know what it means to have the flywheel resurfaced?
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Originally posted by kyle_baker@Mar 10 2005, 12:02 AM
the clutch super kit i'm ordering includes the following:

Three piece Sachs clutch kit
New Pressure plate bolts
New flywheel bolts
New flywheel seal
New Transmission mainshaft seal
New selector rod seal
New exhaust gaskets
New pilot bearing
New release bearing spring clip
New clutch pivot pin
New slave cylinder
New slave cylinder hose

...these are all m3 parts.
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The only parts on the M3 which are different are the Slave cyl, pilot bearing and possibly the clutch release bearing. Get those parts and the pivot ball pin and you're set.
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The flywheel only needs to be replaced if the contact surface shows burn marks. You usually get these if you drive the car on a worn out clutch for too long. Otherwise, when replacing the pressure plate and clutch disc, it's a good practice to have the flywheel resurfaced so that the new parts will mate properly with the old flywheel. Replacement is usually not necessary unless the flyhweel shows serious signs of wear. On most aftermarket flywheels the flywheel contact plate is replaceable, the stock ones are not.

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