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#1 (permalink) Old 06-28-2004, 10:36 PM
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My car is getting an overhaul soon and one of the things I want done is ceramic brakes. The tab is being up by my father as a "thank you for transferring to a real school so I can go to NY more" present. Pretty much, anything I want replaced is getting replaced (except suspension, unless it needs it).

Anyway, like I said, I want ceramic brakes. But will a dealer install them or will they make you use the OE pads? Also, would the dealer install bilstien shocks (I'd spring for springs [hehe, its a pun] if I need new ones? A lot of the stuff I want are non-OE parts, and I need to know if a dealer will install them. Don't know any good indie shops here.

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Man i wish my dad would let me overhaul my car usin his money, that would be sweet. I doubt the dealer will install ne thing but oem parts, but i could be wrong, they want to rip u off as much as possible. U could probably do some work urself maybe.

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sry wrong thread

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cermanic brakes require different pads, because of the tolerance points.

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If you take the stuff there they should do it. But you prolly need to bring all of the parts to do it. The BMW stealership near me will install and sell dinian stuff... so i dont' see why they wouldn't do other stuff.
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I know my garage in LR would, but its much harder to find a good shop in Atlanta, and even harder in NY (hence why Im getting it done now). Assuming I get off work at my normal time tomorrow I should have time to swing by the dealer and setup a pre-overhaul inspection and get their reccomendations as to what should be replaced.

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Make sure you get rotors to handle the ceramic pads. Otherwise the ceramic pads will eat the rotors... litterally like two giant teeth.

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hmm Interesting subject. I have bosch Ceramic pads and they are quiet good. Sometimes I get tired of them as they are way sticky. But then I think of the safety and rejoice. As far as brand goes, I am using the BOSCH CERAMIC and they are excellent pads. Rotors are brembo slotted, which are excellent too. I would recommend doing it on your own. Not many tools required. It is quite easy, even for a first timer. Other good ceramic pads are Portorfield, Pagid red, yellow, and even top of the line HAWK HP.
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I think ceramics are a bit over the top. I'd have thought that a large set of 8pot brembos would have been sufficient.

Ceramic pads usually require actuators also to keep the disk warm and dry, otherwise the performance can suffer.

I'd rather spend the cash on a full titanium exhaust system.

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I think ceramics are a bit over the top. I'd have thought that a large set of 8pot brembos would have been sufficient.

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He is thinking of replacing the pads and may rotors, not the whole brake system, or I hope so. Even the cheapest set of Brembos for front only can cost upward of 3k.
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Sorry.... I thought he was doing the lot.

He DID say an overhaul with someone picking up the tab though:

"Goodafternoon, is that Hamann sales department? I'd like to order everything you've got please....." ha ha ha

Thanks dad :lol:

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I would DIM but the tab is being paid for me....so why not take advantage of it? Doesn't look I have a busy schedule today, should be able to duck out of work at 3 as usual and make it to the dealer to setup an appointment and find out for sure.

However, it does have to be within in reason. i have to get the dealer to say, yes this needs to be replaced within the next two years...so do it now. So far, that list includes:

flush brake fluid
coolant
waterpump (don't know if i have plastic or not, so I'll go with replacing to make sure)
all new pads+rotors
(bilstein) shocks


any other suggestions? I had an inspection II 20k ago, time for a 1.

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Originally posted by thekid@Jun 28 2004, 09:46 PM
If you take the stuff there they should do it. But you prolly need to bring all of the parts to do it. The BMW stealership near me will install and sell dinian stuff... so i dont' see why they wouldn't do other stuff.
beacuse they are a dinan bmw dealer. if you look at dinans site you will beable to find a list of dinan bmw dealers.

they maynot install parts other than OEM or dianan.

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Are you going to Jim Ellis? IF so, my past experience with their service department has been excellent. They should oblidge you in your request.

While your looking at the water pump, you should probably replace the thermostat, housing, etc. And if it has been 20K since your II, you might go for new plugs.

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HA! I don't think i will ever go to Ellis for service. When my father had his boxster serviced there, they failed to fix an oil leak twice (that they caused) before finally realizing they had been putting the engine back together wrong after changing the oil.

My stepmother takes her car to United BMW of Roswell, so I will be taking it there.

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