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Old 03-26-2005, 09:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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yeah I'm a noob on this forum. I own a 95 325is 5 speed, and I do need some advise on my ride. My computer reads "break lights failure", and guess what? My break lights don't work. From what I know it could be one of two things: brake light switch, or brake light circuit. Yes, I checked the bulbs and the fuses. Is it infact one of the two formentioned parts or is there something else going on? If it is the switch or the circuit, where are they located in the car, and are there any available walk throughs on the subject? Any feed back is appreciated.
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Old 03-26-2005, 11:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd check the brake light switch first. Its located under the driver's side dash adjacent to the brake pedal. I have replaced mine twice and the car is a '97 with 130,000 miles. What happens is the blades inside the switch beome carboned and create an arch that the computer senses and throws the code you are seeing in the OBC. The next phase is total switch failure.

To gain access, at least on the '97 you have to remove the panel covering the under side of the drivers dash compartment (where the gas, brake and clutch pedal disappear under the dash). You have to lay on your back, look and feel up the brake pedal and you will see the switch. I had to distroy mine both times on removal due to the "Cam like" method of securing it into the mounting flange.

There were two switches listed at the OEM shop for my car. Install is easier than removal. There is a requirement to set the throw of the switch on install. This is the point during depressing the pedal that the lights come on.

Do a search on the forum and I am sure you will find a removal and install procedure. I used a Chilton's manual from the local Advance Auto store.

You may be able to unplug the switch with out removing it and use a jumper wire to check the "system" before you remove the switch. BTW the switch is in the $25 range.

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Pelicanparts website has a DIY with pics.
Hope you're a small person. It took me a while to do this because I'm a 6' 210# guy. But I got it done. Be careful not to pull out the plastic heat ducting because it's a real pain to get back in correctly. Otherwise this is an easy job.
Expect to break out the old switch. Also, getting in the new switch was a bitch. I had to shave a little off of the new switch to get it in. It's been in for 10K, no problems.
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here check this out

http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/techarticl...rake_Switch.htm

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Does it say Brake light Circuit Failure?


Just had to replace my brake light switch. It took the mechanic 5 mintues to replace. My car was still under warranty otherwise I wouldve done it myself.
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I have the same problem with my 95 325is except my brake lights actually work the OBC just says they dont.
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Did you read what I just wrote?

I will explain it more throughly


Brake Light Circuit warning came on/off randomly. My brake lights worked REGARDLESS of this warning coming up. Apparently the warning comes up because your switch is about to fail.

My mechanic fixed in 5 minutes. Replace the switch that relays from the pedal to the lights.

I'm sure there's a DIY for it, DO NOT go pay a mechanic a bunch of money to install this. It took him longer to drive the car around the parking lot to ensure it worked then it took for him to install it.
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Yea its the same prob I have. It has only popped up on the OBC once since I bought the car. When I bought it the guy had put black tape over it so he didnt see it, he told me the OBC didnt work so I figured thats why he had tape over it. But turns out this was the reason so my OBC works afterall.
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