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Old 05-04-2004, 02:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well, finally changed my rotors and pads. The stuff was sitting my basement for more than 3 weeks. I finally got off my lazy ass and did the work today .

Here are some pics. Do realize that I am mechanically challanged so this was a quite fun little project for me. I have done few other pads and rotors but never on a E36 before this.

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will do the rear on Wed. ran out of time today, due to the reason. I couldn't fricking loose the caliper bracket bolts in the rear wheels ghead ghead . Tried every thing, almost came close to stripping them.
Wish I had an air compressor and air tools .


PS: Anyone have pointers to get the caliper support bolts loose without an impact wrench : .
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loosening the cailper bolts is a real pain in the ass sometimes. I know this cause i worked as a used car dealership in the shop where the primary vehicles were BMW's. Now to get the bad boys loose back there your best bet is a breaker bar. You might not want to use an air tool because that may also strip them even easier. If you dont know a breaker bar is a bar about 2 feet long that you put the socket on so you can get the leverage to break it loose. LEVERAGE is and amazing thing when working on cars!!!! You will be surprised how easily it comes loose with that tool.
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Better to be tight then to have them come loose though! I was under my car one day just admiring the sights, when I noticed one of my caliper bolts was missing and the caliper was turned up as you would imagine due to braking. What a scare! But then imagine how I felt when the caliper on the other side actually fell off while I was driving - I could tell by the grinding sound as the caliper grinded out my inner rim. Just to be safe I always put locktite on those bolts, even though they can be a pain to get off. Have fun!
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Always rub those bolts with cupper grease when tighten it.
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A few days before you want to take them off, get yourself a can of PB from your local hardware store. Ask them, they should know what you're looking for. Spray it on the blots quite heavily and it will work it's magic to lube and break up the rust in there. TeflaPent is another really good one, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere.

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how much were the pads? I've been thinking about upgrading to ceramic.
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They are not that expensive. You can get the set (front & rear) for about $165-$190.00. Depending on where you get is from. No one really stocks them, so you would have to special order them and thats why they cost $20 to $30 more than the stickered price.
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I'll keep that in mind. This summer I'll be completly overhauling my car in prep for moving to NY and even stuff that doesnt need replacing im replacing anyway.

I'll try and score a set of those. Have you noticed any great improvement in stopping power? I want them for the lack of brake fade, but I hear they stop well too.
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They also tear up rotors like no other. I'm not sure about BMWs, I've heard they're pretty hard. But if you do put the ceramic pads on make sure to have a good set of rotors on there.

EBC green stuff are pretty good pads. They got like no dust. once I need new pads I'll be getting some of those probably because the ones on my car right now just have too much damn dust. I'm a horrible perfectionist, so I'm on there cleaning them every 2 or 3 days ghead

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Kevin,

I forgot to mention this in the other post regarding the "brakes and rotors". EBC green stuff pads are not that great. They are only recommended for light weight cars. EVEN infact EBC won't even recommend them for 3 series. They suggest EBC red stuff. Prior to going with Bosch Ceramic pads, i did order "infact" EBC Redstuff. But, due to lot of horror stories and EBC's bad rep with slotted rotors, I eneded up returning them. Cost me 15% restocking fee, but good reddince, "I say".

Also, they are using the new technology of V4 in EBC, but havent' upgraded the same in Red stuff yet. That was the other bummer about the redstuff. A friend of mine is runing them in his WRX and he is not all that impressed. The green ones went to fast and contrary to the claim they were quiet dusty. He upgraded to the red stuff with only few differences. The dust is less now, brake fad got little better too, but the pad life it self is bullocks. He is thinking of going with Bosch or Hawks next.

Again even is EBC, go with red stuff.
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ceramics don't create nearly as much heat and dissipate it better than regular pads, so its almost impossible to burn out the brakes.
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