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Old 07-15-2004, 04:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I remember Jllphan said that he bought BMW dual electrode spark plugs. I just went to the dealer today to purcahse new spark plugs. I'm swapping them again (went from +4 to +2, now back to oem). I've been having some misfire problems. I can't use full throttle at times and there is hesistation, usually after changing gear and getting back on the throttle. Anyways, I bought BMW NGK dual electrode plugs which I believe is a copper core (it looks like a copper plug, but the tip is silver). Anyways, just wondering if this is the one you bought as well. I paid $40CDN ($58 without BMWCC membership) for all 4. I hope this solves my problem. I'm just waiting for my motor to cool down so I can change them. I think I remember you said they were BOSCH and not NGK right? Anyways, I've given up on any type of Platinum spark plug, what a waste of money.

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Bosch and NGK are both OEM. They gave me NGKs, how long did you drive on them? If it was just a trip around the block they might be fouling out temporarily and they need to get warmed up a little.
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Bosch and NGK are both OEM. They gave me NGKs, how long did you drive on them? If it was just a trip around the block they might be fouling out temporarily and they need to get warmed up a little.
No no, I haven't installed them yet. I'm using the BOSCH +2's right now. Previously I was using +4's. When the platinum plugs are brand new I find they work ok. When they show a bit of wear (less than half a year) I start to get misfire. Anyways, I'm going to install the plugs tonight and see if it improves anything.

My question was just to Jllphan and whether he was using the NGK or BOSCH dual electrode plugs.

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I just picked up NGK plugs tonight from work, the dealer said NGK BKR6EK or Bosch F7LDCR

That is for a 98 1.9L m44 engine
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I just came back from a test drive after installing the NGK BMW plugs. They work great. No more misfire and the idle seems smoother. One of my 3 month old BOSCH +2's must have been coroded, what crappy plugs. I had problems with both the BOSCH Platinum +2's and +4's. I bet I could use these BMW/NGK copper plugs for more than 4 years without ever experiencing a problem.

Anyways, save yourself some big bucks and avoid buying any sort of platinum plug. Unless you have a hard tuned motor and you require it, you're really better off without it.

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funny cuz i called the bmw dealer here and he said for oem NGKs its only 5 bu. docks each. for +4's he said 16 a piecent know why u paid so much
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sorry my laptop helped me mistype
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funny cuz i called the bmw dealer here and he said for oem NGKs its only 5 bucks each. for +4's he said 16 a piece dont know why u paid so much
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funny cuz i called the bmw dealer here and he said for oem NGKs its only 5 bucks each. for +4's he said 16 a piece dont know why u paid so much
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As far as I know the dealer doesn't sell +4's, is it an official BMW dealer? I can buy +4's at a local Canadian Tire for $30CDN for all 4. Anyways, the price I paid was in Canadian $$$ and I couldn't find the same NGK plugs that other places offered. I'm not sure if there is a difference, but mine has the BMW logo printed on the spark plug.

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ya this is the price given to me from a BMW dealership
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I just got back from putting my plugs in too. NGK's same plugs that were in it from the factory. after 36,000 miles they were starting to round the electrode a little, but that is normal wear. My conclusion is that my car seems to run alot smoother, however I still have a little roughness in my idle, so I guess I will be buying the idle control motor that mounts on the side of the lower intake manifold.
Next project is changing the fuel filter

I picked my plugs up at the NAPA store that I work at list is $10.98 a plug, my cost was $3.29 a plug. I also wiped the boots off, put anit sieze on the threads of the plugs, and a little dab of dielectric grease in the plug boot.
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* NGK BKR6EK* or Bosch F7LDCR

These are both oem replacements. I bought Bosch, just because.

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Since you guys are trying out plugs, have any of you tried iridum plugs. Are they any better than platinum or oem for that matter? Or are they all hype?
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would the NGK BKR6EK or Bosch F7LDCR work for the M20 engine??
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i called one bmw dealer and they said for a 1996 328i the OEM plugs are either NGK's or BOSH copper ones and each are 6 bucks
I called another dealer (closer) to me and he said for my car the stock ones are BOSH not NGK.
anyone know what the stock is on a 96 328i or does it matter ?
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Q: The plugs in my post ARE oem replacements. If you don't believe me, check your owners manual.

As far as iridium plugs go, they are also a waste of time. As I have stated before, the oem ignition system runs at a very low voltage, there is not enough voltage to supply a hotter plug. If you upgraded your ignition to a plasma based system, iridium plugs would be the way to go.
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