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#1 (permalink) Old 06-07-2006, 04:35 AM
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angel eyes upgrade??

i was just looking at some sites to help a friend figure out a problem he had installing his angel eyes and i ran into this site http://www.apexcone.com/JimPowellHom...DemonEyes.html
if you look at the very bottom, the last section. it shows how its possible to goto radioshack, buy some white leds and replace them with your regular bulbs in your angels eyes to make them whiter... i guess my only question is, do you all think i shuold try this? and also does anyone know if inpro angel eyes are the same as the ones in this little tutorial and could be done the same way?

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im getting the ones from understeer.com

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LED angel eyes are a waste of money IMO... just go got the ccfl, and save yourself your patients...
ive already got inpro angerl eyes... i just dont know what kind of eyes they are... are they ccfl's? or leds? see they look yellowish alot like the stock head lights and i want whiter rings, and i ran accross this and was wondering if you all thought it would be easy to just pop the ones i already have out and modify them like they did in that tutorial? and why dont you like led ones? they look good to me in the pics he posted...
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i dont wana buy new ones... i just want to modify my current ones... do none of you all read the original post or look at the tutorial thing??
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i dont wana buy new ones... i just want to modify my current ones... do none of you all read the original post or look at the tutorial thing??
then just get the cheap $119 ones on understeer... chill

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apexcone ones are awesome, and Chris at understeer has a good set. you can also try contacting Jlevi, hes one of the forum sponsors.

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haha ok everyone listen. i dont want to buy new angel eyes... what i want to know is if you all think its possible to do the little modifying that he did in that tutorial at the very bottom to the angel eyes i have now (in pros) i dont know about the rings because i did not install them... they came on my car... if i cant do this little mod then im just going to keep they looking yellowish... no biggy...if u guys really think i need new ones i would be happy to buy them from some one, but im not going to spend more then 5 dollars on them hahaha
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Hi saltshaker185,

yellowish...I know how you feel....

I was looking around for some super white look angel eyes (just curious to see how they look), and found that website you mentioned. Was going to have a go but then chickened out and decided to get some CCFL Angel Eyes Conversion Kit (eBay). It was cheap too.

You get 4 rings ready to fit into the headlamps with inverters and wiring & connectors included (except the brackets needed slight modding to get a snug fit).

The good thing is that the intensity of the light from the angel eyes is the same brightness all round and brilliant white...not just brightest at the ends, where the leds are fitted ! You can see them in broad daylight as well.

I think fitting those CCFL would save a lot of hassle than soldering leds and resistors...unless you are wicked at soldering.

To me, the circuit looks right, with those resistors, providing 20mA at 12V. I am not so sure if the leds would cope with say 26-28mA, i.e. with engine running, your battery would be greater than 12V, say 13-14V. So not much protection there...might blow often if the leds are not rated for that.

Further, those leds are 1100mcd...are you sure they are really white ? Just that those CCFL ones are 43000mcd ! Just thought I mention it as I too would be very disappointed if it turned out to be still "yellow" after all that effort.

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ok so basicly your saying they would suck anyways?? im soo confused...
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I am just not so sure if those leds are bright "white".

You could ask if the shop could demo the leds in action before you buy them. Perhaps query them about the maximum (and inrush) current ratings.
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MCD refers to luminosity (brightness) not color - color is determined by wavelength. As long as the LEDs you are buying are sold as "bright white" they're not going to be yellow at all, and they all will be relatively the same color. It's when you get into colored LEDs that wavelength (for color matching) becomes important.

The LEDs used in the article are pretty weak ones, they are only 1100 MCD. Super-bright white LEDs can commonly be found in 8000 MCD and up. I'd suggest a 20-45 degree viewing angle for this project. You won't find these at Radio Shack though, you'll have to mail oder them. When looking for LEDs keep in mind that the narrower the viewing angle the higher the *advertised* MCD turns out to be - most of the time this is overstated. Here's an auction with some LEDs that would work for this application:

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As far as resistors: 1/2 watt 470 ohm (for 2 LEDs) or 560 ohm (for 1 LED) resistors will do the trick, and are readily available at Radio Shack.
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wow, awesome... someone that acctually knows what they are talking about haha 18 bucks for shipping thuogh??? thats a bitch haha but i think ima do it... it comes with 510 ohm 1/4 watt resistors... are these even useful in anyway or shuold i just hit up radio shack? why couldnt i just use the resistors it came with and wire one for each led? sorry im no electrition if u cant tell...
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The resistors included in that package should work just fine - the wattage basically referrs to the maximum load those resistors can take before burning up. If you're nervous, just hook one up to your car for 15 min or so and see how hot the resistor gets - expect it to be hot, but not hot enough to catch things on fire. Wire 1 resistor per LED, if the resistor burns up, go to radio shack and find ones with a higher wattage.
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