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Old 05-17-2004, 11:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was looking at the Angel Eye headlights on bavauto.com and other places. Except, bavauto says "for off-road only" does this mean that angel eyes arent legal? if they are are, please provide a link to where i can buy them. )
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Old 05-17-2004, 11:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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technically, the projector housing aren't DOT legal. As far as I know no one has had any trouble because of them though. umnitza.com has a very nice selection.
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Honestly, is a cop going to pull you over and tell you your angel eyes are illegal? Sure, that'll happen. Same with window tint, unless your a complete idiot and spraypaint your windows or are an asshole to the cop, he 99% of the time won't care.

Even if he does, if your not a dickhead, he'll probably give you a "fix it" ticket. No fine
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Its not the eyes that are for off road use only... they come on the newer bimmers. This wouldn't be if they were not OK.

its the pojection headlights. that are EU spec and having passed us DOT tests making them for off road use.
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Unless your lights allow you to see through walls I dont think a cop will notice...
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I think the lights would have to be extrememly easy to get away with. If you ever get HIDs, I believe anything about 4300K for HID temp is illegal too, but you can get kits for 12000K temp. If a cop sees those, he won't be able to tell the temperature. What I am trying to say is that the lights may not be legal, but what cop is going to know what is and isn't illegal. Same goes for your angel eye kit. If the cop knows the lights are illegal, he owns a BMW and won't give you a ticket anyway.... at least he shouldn't...
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Cops might not be a problem at all, but I know here in Jersey, cops will get you for window tinit left and right. Also, if its obvious that the parts are aftermarket, you might have a hard time with vehicle inspection. Inspection requires lighting and that goofy stuff to be DOT approved (at least here in NJ). They will also reject you for having too dark of window tint. I got rejected for having clear tails (not Altezzas) on my Integra back in the day. Check the inspection details or you never know, trial by error works just as well.
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I have no idea how a cop could write you a ticket for angel eyes/housing. I am agreeing, but it would be hard for a cop to know the are to bright/not DOT approved. Tint is a lot easier to spot if it's too dark or not. I wouldn't worry about the headlights at all.
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if you are driving an integra.... then he would give ur ass a ticket
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Yes, but fortunately no one in this forum is stupid enough to drive one.
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ok well im new to bmw's. honestly im doing this search for a friend cause he doesnt know how to use a comp all to well. well anyways i was wondering how bright of hid's can you get before they're illegal? oh and what are the zkw + dde lighting enhancements like on http://www.umnitza.com/product_info.php?cP...products_id=149 . do they come with hid's or do you use the same lights that you have. oh yeah and what type (meaning h7 h1 9006) application would i put in a 95 325 coupe for the best and brightest. is it just the little ring or is it the whole light housing? and last but not least am i supposed to get the base or can i just get the enhanced version of it.
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All non-factory HIDs are illegal regardless of color temp. The brightest HIDs are also the cheapest. 4300-6000 is the optimum range for HIDs. Anymore, and the light appears bluer and brighter, but actually gives off less lumens.

The DDEs in ZKWs are angel eyes in german spec ellipsoid projectors. They are not HID, but they project the light like most HID setups. Ideally, HID should go inside a projector. There would be no real noticable difference in brightness between the bulb sizes, it all depends on the housing they are in.
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so where could i get angel eyes that i can put hid's in? so the piaa silverstar and so on that are more then 6000k or whatever is illegal?
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The realm of legallity is determined by wattage (40Watt, 60Watt, 100Watt) not color temp (4K, 6K, 10K). If you buy ZKW's, they have an ellipsoid projector inside. These are ideal for adding HID's.

BTW, PIAA and Sylvania Silverstars are not HID's, they just replecate a similar look. HID's require ballasts, Xenon bulbs, etc. and are much more expensive.
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