After Rain, Car Dies On Road Or Just Wont Start?? - BMW Forum - BimmerWerkz.com
BMW Forum BMW Forum

Auto Insurance

» Featured Product
Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   BMW Forum - BimmerWerkz.com > BMW Model Specific Forums > 3-Series (E36)
Register Home Forum Active Topics Gallery / Showroom Auto Loans Garage Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Auto EscrowInsurance

3-Series (E36) Chat relating to the BMW 3-Series from 1992-1999. Autodoodad Specific models include: BMW 316i, BMW 318i, BMW 318iS/ti, BMW 320, BMW 323, BMW 320, BMW 324, BMW 325, BMW 328.

BimmerWerkz.com is the premier BMW Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-07-2005, 06:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
n00b
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Car:
Posts: 4
Photos:
ws6firebirdta00 is an unknown quantity at this point
hey guys, this isnt my car its my dads but here is the deal. its a 1994 325i vert, auto, 140,000 miles

i noticed this the first time i ran his car through the car wash and i came out and going down the raod about a mile later the car shut off on me. well after the car sat for a while i finally got it started but it ran like crap and missed so bad. put brand new plugs in it, the fuel filter and fuel pump are brand new as well. well this happens every now and then to his car and we noticed its normally after rain. today we got tons of rain and it shut off on him on the highway. last time this happened it flooded the cyls, he took it to the dealer cause we had no time to mess with it and they said nothign was wrong it just flooded out the cyls and thats why it wouldnt fire.

so i had him pull the fuse for the fuel pump today and hold the throttle open ( i wasnt sure how the computers on these cars are set up but i know on mine there is a flood clear at 80% throttle) so we pulled the fuse out so it wouldnt get gas. well he got it to start up but then after a while it shuts right off again on him. it can idle ok but then the rpms will fluctuate and it will die. sometimes it will rev up and others it will bog and die. the car is stock, only has a k&n filter and i noticed a line going to the air box still on the inlet side of the filter, was torn.

from waht i can figure its an electrical problem and its not getting enough spark to the car to fire right. no check engine lights are comming on either. i dont know if the vents on the hood are leaking water somewhere but i hope we can fix it tonight so we doesnt have to take my car out haha thanks guys
ws6firebirdta00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-07-2005, 06:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
n00b
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Car:
Posts: 4
Photos:
ws6firebirdta00 is an unknown quantity at this point
ok so i have found it has to do with the cars computer DME i believe is what its called on these cars. once my dad gets home we will seal it off and make sure its totally dry. it sucks that such a great car has stupid little problems like that.
ws6firebirdta00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2005, 08:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
n00b
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Car:
Posts: 4
Photos:
ws6firebirdta00 is an unknown quantity at this point
looks like thats what it was, it was soaked in there. the car has formed a slight hesitation over time and i wonder if this is the DME that could be bad or just really wet. pretty piss poor design they have how the opening is there under the wiper cowl where the water can come in.
ws6firebirdta00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2005, 04:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
2nd Gear Member
 
Rookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Friday Harbor, WA
Car:
Posts: 471
Photos:
Rookie is an unknown quantity at this point
I have heard about this problem. I seem to remember being told not to take an E36 through a drive-in car wash as it will flood the ECU/DME. That sounds like exactly the same problem I am glad that you got it fixed.

I can't believe the dealership didn't tell you that. I swear those guys have their heads so far up their ass they can't see day light. Fuckin' stealership, I bet they charged you to tell you that the engine was flooded and didn't run right!
__________________
Hookers need love too!
What we do in life echoes an eternity
<img src='http://vfs.com/~3d43patrick/rookiesig2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Rookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2005, 06:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
my car is red
 
94BMW325i's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Newark, Delaware
Car: 94 325i, 84 325e
Posts: 5,747
Photos:
94BMW325i has much to be proud of94BMW325i has much to be proud of94BMW325i has much to be proud of94BMW325i has much to be proud of94BMW325i has much to be proud of94BMW325i has much to be proud of94BMW325i has much to be proud of94BMW325i has much to be proud of94BMW325i has much to be proud of94BMW325i has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to 94BMW325i Send a message via Yahoo to 94BMW325i
Well on cars besides BMW's that could be a problem with the distributor, but BMW's don't have distributors right? So I am guessing the DME or ignition coil?
__________________


member and partial creator of pimpin the auto club
94BMW325i is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2005, 06:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
You Can Has A Custom Title!!
 
e36_m3_Turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Seattle, Washington
Car:
Posts: 5,253
Photos:
e36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond reputee36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond reputee36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond reputee36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond reputee36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond reputee36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond reputee36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond reputee36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond reputee36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond reputee36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond reputee36_m3_Turbo has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally posted by Rookie@Jul 8 2005, 02:31 PM
I have heard about this problem. I seem to remember being told not to take an E36 through a drive-in car wash as it will flood the ECU/DME. That sounds like exactly the same problem I am glad that you got it fixed.

I can't believe the dealership didn't tell you that. I swear those guys have their heads so far up their ass they can't see day light. Fuckin' stealership, I bet they charged you to tell you that the engine was flooded and didn't run right!
[snapback]360834[/snapback]
yeah very true.
__________________
<img src="http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/QnRainStar/e30-blackangus032.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

No longer red.
e36_m3_Turbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2005, 02:52 AM   #7 (permalink)
3rd Gear Member
 
24valve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Pittsburgh
Car: 1994 SAAB 9000 Aero
Posts: 636
Photos:
24valve is just really nice24valve is just really nice24valve is just really nice24valve is just really nice24valve is just really nice
Send a message via AIM to 24valve
Not only that, but automatic car washes are very bad for your convertible's top.
__________________
<img src='http://www.pitt.edu/~sjc22/sig3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Member of the &quot;I haven't passed a cop at 115 mph or drifted on a neighborhood street to impress a girl because I'm not a fucking idiot&quot; club
24valve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2005, 03:01 AM   #8 (permalink)
n00b
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: St. Augustine, Florida
Car:
Posts: 23
Photos:
napalm is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally posted by 24valve@Jul 10 2005, 03:52 AM
Not only that, but automatic car washes are very bad for your convertible's top.
[snapback]361157[/snapback]
I have a 1995 325i Vert.

I had the same problem, only my car would always start but run very poorly. The car would run and drive fine if I drove it in the rain. If my car sat in a parking lot and was not running or in a 'cold' state the car would start, idle funny and running like it was on 5 cylinders.

That's because it was. I took the spark plugs out starting on the closest one to the front bumper. The last two spark plugs (closest to the firewall), were rusty on their ceramic tops. Water would evaportate when my motor was warm, but when it sat the rain would collect on top and run into the top of the spark plug cylinder. This is where the plug wires would arc out and cause the car to run w/ much less performance.

I'm not familiar with the DME issues etc. but on my car changing the spark plugs and ensuring they don't get wet anymore cured the problem.

Good luck
napalm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2005, 10:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
1st Gear Member
 
Dudesky_E36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Jersey City, NJ
Car: Anthracite e39 530iA
Posts: 241
Photos:
Dudesky_E36 is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to Dudesky_E36
It's most definitely the DME flood problem. The dealership should do it for free, since it's a recall issue. They have to punch a larger hole in the drainage area just to the right of the unit above & behind the manifold so it doesn't flood the computer.
__________________
Dudesky_E36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2005, 04:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
You Can Has A Custom Title!!
 
thekid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Jackson MS
Car: 2010 (Prefer not to say here).
Posts: 3,445
Photos:
thekid has a reputation beyond reputethekid has a reputation beyond reputethekid has a reputation beyond reputethekid has a reputation beyond reputethekid has a reputation beyond reputethekid has a reputation beyond reputethekid has a reputation beyond reputethekid has a reputation beyond reputethekid has a reputation beyond reputethekid has a reputation beyond reputethekid has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via ICQ to thekid Send a message via AIM to thekid
All you need to do is replace the hood cowl. If I had my cord for my DC I would take a picture of what I am talking about. But I will try to explain. If you were to go out to your dads car and stand next to the passenger side mirror and look down at the corner of the hood you should see that there is a hole in or part of the the corner of the plastic piece that runs the width of the car (the plastic that is around where the windshield wipers attatch) is broken off. This piece (actually it is 2 pieces) costs about $35 from the parts department at your local stealership. From ther all you gotta do is take off the wipers, remove the platic peice (I beileve it's 3ish of the rubber screw things that hold each piece in). Problem solved. Your out $35 and a half hour.
thekid is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  BMW Forum - BimmerWerkz.com > BMW Model Specific Forums > 3-Series (E36)


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
323i Wouldn't Start TRuckee 3-Series (E46, E90) 8 12-04-2005 01:41 PM
problems starting car when cold... VLAD_325is 3-Series (E36) 8 09-12-2005 08:08 PM
Dies While Going Down The Road. Conradssel 3-Series (E21, E30) 2 08-30-2005 11:30 PM
Damn fine new road El Presidente Driving Tales 21 10-19-2003 06:53 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:26 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.