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Old 01-12-2006, 12:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Affordable big brake kit

Hey, im thinking of making my own BBK for my 318is, i would use Porsche calipers, m3 rotors(2 piece aluminum centered OEMs), i would use a m3 master cylinder, also stainless lines! My uncle is a master machinist so he could fabricate the brackets to mount the calipers onto the hub, what do you guys thimk? good idea?
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Old 01-12-2006, 02:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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great idea in fact ive been thinking of doing this sometime next year. BBk's are so expensive, i know they are important ,but really short of tracking your car, or extreme performance upgrades, BBK's are really for look more than show. a decent upgrade for people who just want a good stopping power a set of upgraded rotors, steelbraided brake lines and a good set of pads will do the trick
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Whether or not you really need the upgraded rotors and SS brake lines is debateable. A set of aftermarket pads and new blank OEM rotors will be plenty for most people.
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you should look into 330 brakes, i think i've seen them on e36's before, should be a diy somewhere
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Whether or not you really need the upgraded rotors and SS brake lines is debateable. A set of aftermarket pads and new blank OEM rotors will be plenty for most people.
this is true, and certainly for stock cars or near stock, the current braking system is adequate , but for those who have a bit more than say a 25-30wrhp differnce from stock may wanna start thinking of upgrading their brakes, that extra bit more you can go faster , you should be able to compensate with stopping power.
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Very true... I've seen a few get going too fast... and not be able to stop due to stock equipment.

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Well i made all four corners smoke today after a canyon run, the fade was horrible, i definately need to upgrade my brakes
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Well i made all four corners smoke today after a canyon run, the fade was horrible, i definately need to upgrade my brakes

not to sound rude or anything, but i thought the whole point of doing that is to take the turns fast.. and barely use your brakes??? i may be wrong
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this is true, and certainly for stock cars or near stock, the current braking system is adequate , but for those who have a bit more than say a 25-30wrhp differnce from stock may wanna start thinking of upgrading their brakes, that extra bit more you can go faster , you should be able to compensate with stopping power.
"Upgraded" Rotors & SS lines won't change your braking distance.
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Well i made all four corners smoke today after a canyon run, the fade was horrible, i definately need to upgrade my brakes

A set of slotted rotors and different pads would help the fading without going to Big Brake kits. The stainless lines would give you more pedal feel, but as Storamin said, may not help you with distance. If you can get all the parts at a reasonable price, and your uncle can make them work together, and they don't rub on the back of your wheels, making your on kit may work for you.
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not to sound rude or anything, but i thought the whole point of doing that is to take the turns fast.. and barely use your brakes??? i may be wrong
No hard feelngs man, BUt apparently you have never been to Turnbow canyon in whittier!! if you seroiusly haul ass you need your brakes,or you fly off the cliff, i brake before i enter the turns, some racer told me that, also brake to correct myself, well i learn more everytime i go!!!
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Cross drilled rotors are just for show. Look at what most club racers use... OEM blanks.

SS Lines don't give any different pedal feel. It's a placebo. Call up UUC or Stoptech and ask them. They'll tell you.
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your wrong about the pedal feel, it is definately a more responsive pedal feel, i had stainless lines in my e28, i felt the difference, also porsche uses SS lines as oem!!
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Cross drilled rotors are just for show. Look at what most club racers use... OEM blanks.

SS Lines don't give any different pedal feel. It's a placebo. Call up UUC or Stoptech and ask them. They'll tell you.

hmm you could very well be right about the lines, ive heard different but of course from a person of a person type deal, what ive heard is they increase pedal feel because under intense braking the lines dont have the tendancy to flex or bulge thus creating a void,, and yes i dont think they make any diff in distance..

cross drilled are not something that people should buy, if anything buy a set of slotted rotors, they help disapate heat and gases that cause brake fade, the down side is is cross drilled eat pads fast, and are not re-machinable, my brakes saw a lot less fade when i went to slotted rotors
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