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man took a ride in my friends integra 4 door with type r moter. any ways he was shifting with out using the clutch. he said i can do it in my bmw but i amafraid to try it. so is it possible to do it in a e30 ?
Originally posted by e30driver@Apr 15 2005, 10:20 AM man took a ride in my friends integra 4 door with type r moter. any ways he was shifting with out using the clutch. he said i can do it in my bmw but i amafraid to try it. so is it possible to do it in a e30 ?
by the way there was no grinding noise!
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you can do it in any vehicle. it just requires controlling the throttle when you pop in and out of gear
Okay, basically what he's doing is he's bringing throttle control to the next level. When you engage a clutch, it allows you to shift gears regardless of engine speed and road speed, so long as you match the too when you let out the clutch. Syncromesh lines up the gears and away you go.
Doing this without clutching, you have to be extremely tactile with your gas and your shifter. I've only managed to pull it off once (at the time I hated manual gearboxes, but had to drive one anyways), so as you ease off on the gas, pull it lightly out of gear. (This is where you control the throttle. Letting off completely will drop the revs quick, same as when you've got the clutch in. Letting off gradually, or not completely, is the best way to match the revs quick and not damage anything) Lean on the indent of the gear you're heading to next, but don't engage it until the revs fall to the correct point to match your road speed (you lean on it so the syncromesh gets spinning and ready to help you engage the gear without ripping the teeth off your gears) and then at exactly the right moment, pop it down (or up, wherever you're going) into gear.
Any tranny with syncromesh can do it. If you're good, you can get some really good performance out of this (less slippage/loss from the clutch). If you screw it up, you can slowly destroy the transmission. That whole procedure takes a mere second, if less, to do. Practice makes perfect, but if you get grinding noises, get on the clutch, fast.
Good luck!
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careful thou i have done this in my car when i was pissed by acciendent it really drops ur time lower say if you were at a track. i beat a 68 mustang doing it this way when i was pissed i beat him by like a car & 1/2
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Originally posted by offabroadway@Apr 15 2005, 02:39 PM Okay, basically what he's doing is he's bringing throttle control to the next level. When you engage a clutch, it allows you to shift gears regardless of engine speed and road speed, so long as you match the too when you let out the clutch. Syncromesh lines up the gears and away you go.
Doing this without clutching, you have to be extremely tactile with your gas and your shifter. I've only managed to pull it off once (at the time I hated manual gearboxes, but had to drive one anyways), so as you ease off on the gas, pull it lightly out of gear. (This is where you control the throttle. Letting off completely will drop the revs quick, same as when you've got the clutch in. Letting off gradually, or not completely, is the best way to match the revs quick and not damage anything) Lean on the indent of the gear you're heading to next, but don't engage it until the revs fall to the correct point to match your road speed (you lean on it so the syncromesh gets spinning and ready to help you engage the gear without ripping the teeth off your gears) and then at exactly the right moment, pop it down (or up, wherever you're going) into gear.
Any tranny with syncromesh can do it. If you're good, you can get some really good performance out of this (less slippage/loss from the clutch). If you screw it up, you can slowly destroy the transmission. That whole procedure takes a mere second, if less, to do. Practice makes perfect, but if you get grinding noises, get on the clutch, fast.
Good luck!
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Very nicely put my freind, could not have said it better myself... To do this you really have to UNDERSTAND what is going on inside there...
Ive done it in my moms volvo, kinda by accident when i was first learning 5 speed... i think it would be harder in my car just because the gearbox is notchier.. if that makes sense.
if you can match the RPM's correctly with the correct throttle, it can be done. in my dads old VW Rabbit, the clutch went out, and he got home fine, and when he would come to a stop, he'd have to shut the car off, and put it in first then start it in first with gas to go.
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Originally posted by jze325i+Apr 15 2005, 08:51 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jze325i @ Apr 15 2005, 08:51 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-VeLoCiTy318@Apr 15 2005, 10:46 PM lol my friend did this in his integra awhile ago and I was like*
dont think I'd risk trying it on my bimmer tho
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Learn on his Integra, that way you'll know how to do it if you ever NEED to
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I just spent 1800 on a new trannie..I'm not doing anything to take the chance of having to do that again! ghead
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