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3-Series (E21, E30) Chat relating to the BMW 3-Series from 1975-1983 and 1984-1991 line. Specific models: BMW 315, BMW 316, BMW 318, BMW 318i, BMW 320/4, BMW 320i, BMW 320/6, BMW 323i, BMW 320i. E30 Family models include: BMW 325e, BMW 325i, BMW 325is, BMW 325ix.

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Old 11-16-2004, 05:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hello, i know this guy who is selling his 1984 325es, i have a 84 318i right now and its a good car and all but it lacks power and its auto .

the kis is selling his 325es for around 2,000 bucks and he just got it repainted and it only has 116,000 miles on it which isnt much at all.

do you think its a good deal for 2,000 and does that car have some good power caus my 4cyl sucks.

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Old 11-16-2004, 06:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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2000 sounds like a reasonable deal for it, the e's or etas are econemy cars, and you really cant get much more horse power out of them without rebuilding the engine with new internals eg - pistons and crank.

im not an expert by any means but ive heard from enough people that you just cant get any more power out of these things with bolt ons.

anyway these cars are not THAT slow, the 0-50 is around 5.9 i beleive but the 0-60 is in the 9's. this is because they lack in horse power but are torquey motors i think the specs are somewhere around 120 HP and 180 TQ.

hope i helped a little.

also you can eventually stroke the motor up with a 3.0L stroker kit if you want. check out the ireland engineering stroker kits for more info.
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 11-16-2004, 07:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have an 86 ETA and i can tell you 2 things.

1) What these cars lack in horsepower, they make up for in one of the strongest and sweetest torque curves of that era.

2) you can add 24 Hp and about 28 lbs-ft torque with a $50 chip off ebay that takes about 20 minutes to install.

$2,000 for an e30 ETA with that kind of mileage is very fair.

This car will blow the doors off your 318, and, if you put the chip in, it will give a stock 325i a run for its money. The 84-88 eta cars are very smooth, economical, and reliable, and with an almost completely flat 170 lb-ft (stock) torque curve, are superb in everyday driving.

Stock power figures o nthese cars are: 121 hp and 170 lb-ft torque

My ETA with a Dinan chip and performance exhaust dynoes at: 143HP and 199 lb-ft of torque but when anybody asks I just say 145 and 200 for the sake of rounding - lol
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Old 11-16-2004, 07:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Price sounds reasonable. For 325 tech try: http://www.bmwe30.net/

I've been looking for a decent 318 myself. Interested in selling yours? I'm looking for a 2 door.

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hello, i know this guy who is selling his 1984 325es, i have a 84 318i right now and its a good car and all but it lacks power and its auto .

the kis is selling his 325es for around 2,000 bucks and he just got it repainted and it only has 116,000 miles on it which isnt much at all.

do you think its a good deal for 2,000 and does that car have some good power caus my 4cyl sucks.

thanks

PS. does anyone know anysites that have specs for 84 325es
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Old 11-16-2004, 08:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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well if i do decided to buy this car then yeah i am going to sell my 318i and it is a 2dr. if you want to talk more about my car just PM me.

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Old 11-16-2004, 09:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I would stay away from the ETA if it is horsepower (performance)that you are after... DeathMetal is right about the chip,etc bumping up the HP and the torque, but let's face it, the 325i - which has 168hp stock (as opposed to 121 from ETA) and 164 lb ft torque (ETA has 170) is a MUCH better option that if you shop around can find one at a reasonable price...

There is no way to get the performance out of an ETA engine that you would get out of
an "i" engine because the ETA has very weak valve springs (hence the low rev limit), mild camshaft, smaller throttle body, single pipe exhaust (as opposed to true dual on 325i)...

If you are going to put money into something, put it into an "i" E30... But I guess I would rather have an ETA than a 318...
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The eS was only made from 1986-1987. There is no such thing as a 1984 325es. At least I'm pretty sure, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:02 AM   #9 (permalink)
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That's correct, the 325es were only available for those two years.
But like the 325i, there was a two-door version of what was otherwise called a 325e.
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$2K for an '84 eta? I would keep looking if I were you. I got an '87 iS for $1500.
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Old 11-17-2004, 11:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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yea i know what you mean i just cheaking it price in the blue book and it said that it was worth about 1,400, so i am going to talk to the kid about the price and im gonna look around for some I's

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The thing has under 120 on it.
That's pretty darn rare, and E30s can roll right past 300,000 miles.
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Mine had 113,000 miles when I bought it. 116,500 now.
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