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3-Series (E21, E30) Chat relating to the BMW 3-Series from 1975-1983 and 1984-1991 line. Specific models: BMW 315, BMW 316, BMW 318, BMW 318i, BMW 320/4, BMW 320i, BMW 320/6, BMW 323i, BMW 320i. E30 Family models include: BMW 325e, BMW 325i, BMW 325is, BMW 325ix.

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Old 09-16-2003, 10:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This car came with a 2.0L engine and a 1.8L engine right? How do I tell the difference? where would it say?

also what are some stats on the 2 engines?

I'm pretty much new to the BMW scene. I'm looking at an E21 on sunday which I may pick-up, if it looks worth it, so I'm pretty excited about it.

I appreciate any help anynoe might be able to give me.

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Welcome AE101,

the 4cyl 320's stopped production in 77 so a 82 320 would be the 6cyl. the 1.8's were called 318s in that year. there was also a 323, but that was probably only available in europe.
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the 4cyl 320's stopped production in 77 so a 82 320 would be the 6cyl. the 1.8's were called 318s in that year. there was also a 323, but that was probably only available in europe.


Where are you getting this information?!?
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Old 09-17-2003, 02:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Well I had 2 320i's, I had a 1980 and a 1983, by far I liked the 83 much better because I had cloth interior and I had the whole Zender body kit B) ... But as I remember both of them had a 4 cyl. engine I forgot the displacment but I'm pretty sure it was a 2.0 litre engines. Dont quote me but thats what I always thought that the 320 ment 3 series 2.0 litre and the 318 is a 3 series 1.8 litre and of course the 325 is 3 series 2.5 litre. Correct me if I'm wrong . I like the 320i but if you can find a 323 grey market buy it, it came with a 6 cyl. engine and itrs super fucki'n fast... happy shopping
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Thats more like it.

320i's didnt even start production until 1977.

The 77-79 models came with the 2.0 4cyl. The 80-83 had the 1.8l 4cyl. Apparently they decided not to change the name for marketing reasons. Theyve done the same thing with new models too for the same reason.

Europe also saw the 323i with the 2.3l 6cyl as well as the 320i 6cyl with a 2.0l six.

A 323i probably wouldn't be the best idea for the average person. They were a grey market car in the states so parts availability over here definitely isn't the best.
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thanks for the help guys.

The car seems to be in good health, but I have a parts car that's a '78 320i with a 2.0L so I was wondering if the engines were interchangeable, but if they're different engines that may be more difficult...

So if the engine is a 4cyl, it's definatly going to be a 1.8L?? How does the 1.8L stack up against the 2.0L? And are they both designated as an "M10" engine? or do they have different names? used Sorry for all the questions, LOL!

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The car is definatly a 4cyl, so that means it's a 1.8L?

I am in Canada BTW, incase there were any differences...

I'm just courious as to how much power difference there is between the 1.8 and the 2.0....
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If its an 82 you will have the 1.8 5 speed and the throttle body is on the bottom of the intake manifold, also the intake man. looks longer rather then high like the 2.0's had. 77-79 is a 2.0l 4 speed. the 77-79 have 110hp and the 80-83 has 101hp. Good luck.
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Thats more like it.

320i's didnt even start production until 1977.

The 77-79 models came with the 2.0 4cyl. The 80-83 had the 1.8l 4cyl. Apparently they decided not to change the name for marketing reasons. Theyve done the same thing with new models too for the same reason.

Europe also saw the 323i with the 2.3l 6cyl as well as the 320i 6cyl with a 2.0l six.

A 323i probably wouldn't be the best idea for the average person. They were a grey market car in the states so parts availability over here definitely isn't the best.
i never said 320'i'. i just said 320. i dont know much about e21's so i just pasted some info i found off google.

this is what i got off bmwinfo.com: (not US specific)
315 M10 4 cylinder 75 HP 155 km/h 1981-1984
316 M10 4 cylinder 90 HP 160 km/h 1975-1983
318 M10 4 cylinder 98 HP 170 km/h 1975-1980
318i M10 4 cylinder 105 HP 171 km/h 1980-1983
320 M10 4 cylinder 109 HP 175 km/h 1975-1977
320i M10 4 cylinder 125 HP 180 km/h 1975-1977
320 M20 6 cylinder 122 HP 181 km/h 1977-1983
323i M20 6 cylinder 143 HP 200 km/h 1977-1983
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thanks guys. I appreciate all the help and info.
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there is a 1.8 cast into the head back by the fire wall
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