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3-Series (E21, E30) Chat relating to the BMW 3-Series from 1975-1983 and 1984-1991 line. Specific models: BMW 315, BMW 316, BMW 318, BMW 318i, BMW 320/4, BMW 320i, BMW 320/6, BMW 323i, BMW 320i. E30 Family models include: BMW 325e, BMW 325i, BMW 325is, BMW 325ix.

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#1 (permalink) Old 08-31-2004, 07:19 PM
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I own an E36 so youll have to excuse my ignorance:
So a super hot chick at school came up to me and says "I want to trade my car (a lame jetta) for a BMW. Your the first person I tohught to ask." I asked her a few questions and she says she likes the E30 (she said boxy but w/e). I was curious, do they make the 3 series in 4door? She'll probably get an auto, but what engine would you rocomend? Any other recomendations in general? Keep in mind shes a hot chick so i hope to maybe get a date out of this. Thanks fellow Bimmerians.

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theres the 325i and is motor and the 325e motor, the e standing for eta which is basically an economy version that can only rev to 5400?

325i - 2 and 4 door 2.5 liter engine that revs to 7000? 168 hp?
325is - 2 and 4 door with a sportier suspension, same engine as the i

325e - 2 and 4 door with a 2.7 liter 124 hp? engine

if she cares about speed at all, go with the i or is. etas are quick up until 50 mph because they have high torque (5.9 or so 0-50) but it takes up to around 9 to hit 60.

autos are even slower.

i probably said something wrong there.. but thats basically the low down on e30's.

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Living proof of a 4 door and you dont know how much i hate having it instead of two door
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Yea i would imagine that the 4doors are harder to see out of than the coupes.. am i right?

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The is and es are only two-door models, and you can buy a 325i coupe.
325, 325e, and 325i are all sedans (save the aforementioned rare 325i coupe).

Takes my four-door 325 9.2 seconds to get to sixty. Etas are a good bit slower. And really don't get that much better mileage. Automatics kill power, speed, control, and gas consumption - there really is no reason to get one, but I would recommend an i-spec if she can afford the gas and insurance, which I can't. Eta (M20B27 2.7L) - 121hp @ 3250, 170lb-ft. @ 4250, redlines @ 4500, fuel cutoff @ 5300 (horsepower was bumped up to 128 after September of 1987; the Super Eta). I-spec (M20B25 2.5L) - 168hp @ 5800, 164lb-ft. @ 4300, redline @ 6800, fuel cutoff @ ~7100.

325i, 325is - M20B25.
325, 325e, 325es - M20B27.

Four-door E30s will forever look a gazillion times nicer than coupes. Two-doors just look so puny, like BMW didn't finish making them - they need two more doors.

In my opinion.


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If he wants a date, I don't think treating her like a whore is going to get him that. Anyway, if she wants to get rid of her "lame jetta", chances are she doesn't want a 4 banger or an e... so 325i it is. Now it just all depends how many doors she wants and how sporty she wants it.

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yell her ull help her find a nice one if she gives u some head...lol jp

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Originally posted by 87 325iS@Aug 31 2004, 10:56 PM
Anyway, if she wants to get rid of her "lame jetta", chances are she doesn't want a 4 banger or an e... so 325i it is.
I just noticed I completely left out the 318s.
Oh well, who cares about those things. :lol:


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Auto in an e30 will cost her and extra 15%-20% in gas. My E46 328i manual is getting better fuel economy than my old E30 316i auto! Seriously!

Personally, for a girly type car she would be better off with a smaller, cheaper to maintain 4 cyl. engine. 318iS would be the best choice. HOWEVER, in manual form a 316i or 318i of early 1990 or later uses the slightly more powerful e36 engine. That takes (European spec) the 316i from 80 BHP to 102 BHP and the 318i to 118 bhp. The 318iS is 140 BHP. 0-60 in a 318iS is only about 1.5 seconds slower than the 325i, but insurance is a whole lot less.

Whatever happens try to talk her into a manual rather than auto. I am sure she already knows what to do with the big lever!!! :P
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Living proof of a 4 door and you dont know how much i hate having it instead of two door
are you on drugs? 4 door e30s are fuggin hot and im not joking...i really thinkg four doors rock!

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Originally posted by BMDubya84@Sep 1 2004, 07:51 AM
are you on drugs? 4 door e30s are fuggin hot and im not joking...i really thinkg four doors rock!
Word.
And I should think you'd be more upset about having an automatic than a four-door.


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i dont care about auto and then again i really dont care about the foor doors all i am happy about is that i got my car running again with its new tranny
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I think you missed the whole point of the exercise. I don't think she gives a rip about the car, it was just an excuse to talk to you and give you an opportunity to ask her out! ghead Forget about the car!
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I think you missed the whole point of the exercise. I don't think she gives a rip about the car, it was just an excuse to talk to you and give you an opportunity to ask her out! ghead Forget about the car!
bingo. dont bore her with hp and redline figures, thats not what she's after
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