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3-Series (E21, E30) Chat relating to the BMW 3-Series from 1975-1983 and 1984-1991 line. Specific models: BMW 315, BMW 316, BMW 318, BMW 318i, BMW 320/4, BMW 320i, BMW 320/6, BMW 323i, BMW 320i. E30 Family models include: BMW 325e, BMW 325i, BMW 325is, BMW 325ix.

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Old 07-27-2005, 03:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello. I changed my Transmission fluid in the winter and as the Bentley suggested I used 80/90 GL4 transmission fluid. As soon as it was changed I noticed that it was harder to get into 2nd gear especially in cold weather. Once the car is warmed up the shifting is fine. I figure this shouldn't be happening since I used the fluid Bentley suggested. Any ideas what could be wrong???

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What year and model, there are three different fluids depending on model and transmission.
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What year and model, there are three different fluids depending on model and transmission.
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Sorry I should've said. It's an '84 325e

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Too little, or too much fluid can cause erratic shifting.

I have also never heard of the fluid you used. I thought you just used dextron II or III depending on the model
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dextron II and III are for automatic tranny's no? 80/90 gear oil are for standard trans and also diff in some cases. sorry though, my manuals only cover 89 - 93.
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You are probably right...my bad. Yea make sure you have the right amount of fluid.
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You are probably right...my bad. Yea make sure you have the right amount of fluid.
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as a general rule, always use ATF fluid in manual BMW transmissions. If you have a getrag 260 or 265 I know you are supposed to use ATF fluid.
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Originally posted by Tadao+Jul 27 2005, 03:11 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tadao @ Jul 27 2005, 03:11 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Bear@Jul 27 2005, 02:45 PM
What year and model, there are three different fluids depending on model and transmission.
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Sorry I should've said. It's an '84 325e

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Here is what my service manual says:reference manual transmission fluid change:
1. Red label=DEXRON II
2. Green Label=Synthetic Gear Oil
3. No Label=API-GL-4 SAE 80- NON HYPOID GEAR LUBE OR SINGLE GRADE API SE OR SF HD ENGINE OIL
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Ok. I think I have a green label. I'll have to check. I have the non-hypoid 80/90 gear oil in there. Maybe I should go synthetic then. Is it doing major damage now if I have the wrong one in there? Does it need to be flushed or treated if I change it out?

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I do not suspect long term damage. If you have the wrong fluid, just drain and refill with the correct stuff.
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LSA oil (usually used on Limited Slips) or ATF fluid will serve you right since it will make shifting easier
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Originally posted by nukeduster+Jul 28 2005, 11:50 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nukeduster @ Jul 28 2005, 11:50 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Bmw1990@Jul 27 2005, 07:12 PM
You are probably right...my bad.* Yea make sure you have the right amount of fluid.
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as a general rule, always use ATF fluid in manual BMW transmissions. If you have a getrag 260 or 265 I know you are supposed to use ATF fluid.
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What are you sniffing? ATF? That's for the power steering box and the automatic transmission. Please consult the manual before writing something like that.
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You are probably right...my bad. Yea make sure you have the right amount of fluid.
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as a general rule, always use ATF fluid in manual BMW transmissions. If you have a getrag 260 or 265 I know you are supposed to use ATF fluid.
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What are you sniffing? ATF? That's for the power steering box and the automatic transmission. Please consult the manual before writing something like that.
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He is right, especially in areas with cold weather it is recommended that you use ATF in your manual transmision. Gear oil is too thick and will not allow you to shift your transmission in cold weather. The previous owner of my car was a tech a BMW dealership and put ATF in the manual tranny. We use it in the tranny on both our e30's.
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ATF - OR - LSA oil

they are both as thin

We use ATF on all gearboxes here in iceland due to cold weather..
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