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#1 (permalink) Old 03-02-2005, 08:51 PM
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well i just got some very bad news from my mechanic....

last saturday i had the car towed in from my house becaue the car wouldnt start. after two days, the mechanic calls back and gives me the skinny: while the engine was running, the timing belt broke (hadnt been replaced since '96, thanks dad ), which caused the parts of the engine to run without organization, so they hit each other. apparently when that happened something got screwed up in my head, and now i need an entire new head, timing belt (obviously), and probably water pump.

so i guess what im trying to say is, where can i get this shit for mad cheap? between myself and my friends we can probably do all the work....

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I bet you can get a new head from a junk yard, But of course you want a fresh timing belt - sorry to hear!

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Originally posted by SynSyx@Mar 2 2005, 08:51 PM
well i just got some very bad news from my mechanic....

last saturday i had the car towed in from my house becaue the car wouldnt start. after two days, the mechanic calls back and gives me the skinny: while the engine was running, the timing belt broke (hadnt been replaced since '96, thanks dad ), which caused the parts of the engine to run without organization, so they hit each other. apparently when that happened something got screwed up in my head, and now i need an entire new head, timing belt (obviously), and probably water pump.

so i guess what im trying to say is, where can i get this shit for mad cheap? between myself and my friends we can probably do all the work....
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the timing belt borke WHILE the car was at the shop? That seems awfully suspect.

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no no no, i was driving the car to school early one morning, and in my driveway the engine died when the timing belt broke.... must have been frozen or something, or just really old....

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no no no, i was driving the car to school early one morning, and in my driveway the engine died when the timing belt broke.... must have been frozen or something, or just really old....
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It was just too old, max life for a timing belt on the M20 is 5 years or 40K miles(whichever comes first). At $40 for a new belt and idler pully I replace mine everyother year. For me it takes about 45min to replace just the belt, and maybe another 10-15min if I do the water pump at the sametime.
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as for your head did it bend the valves and crack the head? or is the head in decent shape because you could get it machined and fixed depending on what is wrong. if its un repairable seeing as wreckers dont part out engines and if they do the price wil be jacked you should buy a complete engine of that year from the wrecker part it out take what you want and dont want or even keep it and build it up itno a really nice motor and swap heads when you think its finished. and as for the head pull it off take it to a machine shop get it checked to see if its straight and get new valve guides put in and make sure you have your engine at TDC when you bolt it on and follow instructions to the T otherwise you could end up with the same problem before you have the head on again so instuctions are your friend double and tripple check eveything you do and good luck! it doesn't take that long to do a head and all that stuff if you get the head machined it should take less then half a day to take the engine appart and throw on the other head. i know because iv done it. not for the same reason tho.... i did it for more power, and my head was warped and i was burning coolant but thats a whole other story GOOD LUCK!

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well, when i went to the shop he had the cover off and the top of the head revealed. he showed me one of valves that broke off. come to think of it, im not really sure why i need a whole new head, the other parts of the head (valves, springs, and the whole cam) seemed fine, ill ask him again tho.

for sure i will need a timing belt tho hehe

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well, when i went to the shop he had the cover off and the top of the head revealed. he showed me one of valves that broke off. come to think of it, im not really sure why i need a whole new head, the other parts of the head (valves, springs, and the whole cam) seemed fine, ill ask him again tho.

for sure i will need a timing belt tho hehe
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haha take the head to a machine shop and get them to test it, and then get them to replace the valves and valve guides or atleast the broken valves.

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Been there, in 1992, which is how I got the car so cheap. Bent 2 intake and 4 exhaust. There wasn't anything wrong with the head. Those exhaust valves are EXPENSIVE though, over twice what the intake cost. If you had been turning some RPMs, there might be an issue, but idle or low RPM shouldn't hurt the head.
I pulled an installed the head, but had a Beemer mechanic to the head job.
Change my belt every 50K (every other oil change) ever since and all has been well.

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Sorry to hear that man..I was gonna make an appointment to change mine till the Trannie went out. Thats blowing my bimmer cash for a little while. ghead

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Change my belt every 50K (every other oil change) ever since and all has been well.

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You go 25K between oil changes?
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Originally posted by AJ's320i+Mar 4 2005, 01:51 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(AJ's320i @ Mar 4 2005, 01:51 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Stamey@Mar 3 2005, 04:58 AM
Change my belt every 50K (every other oil change) ever since and all has been well.

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You go 25K between oil changes?
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Yep. 12.5K between filter changes (Amsoil oil and filters). Been 137K like that. You open the oil cap and it looks like brand new in there. It leaks more oil than it burns, and it doesn't leak much.

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Change my belt every 50K (every other oil change) ever since and all has been well.

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You go 25K between oil changes?
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Yep. 12.5K between filter changes (Amsoil oil and filters). Been 137K like that. You open the oil cap and it looks like brand new in there. It leaks more oil than it burns, and it doesn't leak much.

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i believe his animated face ( ) was in shock because thats a hell of a long time in between oil changes.

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Can someone please post about how much a shop asks for a timing belt replacement?

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Can someone please post about how much a shop asks for a timing belt replacement?
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