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3-Series (E21, E30) Chat relating to the BMW 3-Series from 1975-1983 and 1984-1991 line. Specific models: BMW 315, BMW 316, BMW 318, BMW 318i, BMW 320/4, BMW 320i, BMW 320/6, BMW 323i, BMW 320i. E30 Family models include: BMW 325e, BMW 325i, BMW 325is, BMW 325ix.

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Old 01-24-2010, 06:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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323i ETM (E30)

I have an 85 euro 323i and need the ETM (electrical troubleshooting manual). I need the diagrams to help convert the wiring harness for the 327 engine now installed ('88 with S head). The 85's wiring doesn't appear consistent with the US models of the same year.

Can anyone point me to a download of the european model ETM? I've already searched the pdf factories to no avail.

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I have an 85 euro 323i and need the ETM (electrical troubleshooting manual). I need the diagrams to help convert the wiring harness for the 327 engine now installed ('88 with S head). The 85's wiring doesn't appear consistent with the US models of the same year.

Can anyone point me to a download of the european model ETM? I've already searched the pdf factories to no avail.

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You are having problems because you CANNOT interface the harness from and 85 323i to the electrics of an 88 327s. (i.e. computer will be a mismatch ans so will a host of sensors)

Better option for you is to obtain the whole harness including DME etc... and install that on the 85 shell.
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Darkhorse, you've been presumptuous as that is what is being done. The problem lies in patching the 88 wiring system to the existing connectors of the 85 dash and fusebox. Just need the ETM to identify and verify the wires. Thanks anyway.
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tsk, I suppose you do know ?... that using a eurospec cluster in the US is not allowed by law, right?

In trying register a euro car for use inside the U.S. the first thing the DMV will check is the cluster that MUST read MPH (eurocars read in KPH).

That said, it's a waste of ur time to match wiring because you will end up having to change cluster anywayz... whether you like it or not ;-)

Might as well, do the same with the fusebox, right?
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In trying register a euro car for use inside the U.S. the first thing the DMV will check is the cluster that MUST read MPH (eurocars read in KPH).
Not quite the case Darkhorse...if you buy a cluster from the UK we have both MPH and KMH/KPH on the speedo, with MPH being on the outer circumference, example below:

http://www.ukcar.com/road_tests/bmw/...SEL.SPEEDO.jpg
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The car was federalized years ago. As much as your input may seem helpful, all I have requested is the euro ETM to make the wire id easier. I can work out the rest - it isn't brain science.
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This covers the 325, maybe of some help??

Bmw E30 325e 318i 1985 Electronic Troubleshooting Manual (etm) - Free Manual Books Download
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Thanks Marti5. The "e" was for the US models, and it appears my euro is slightly different. Unfortunately, I haven't found much documentation for the euro models.

I appreciate the help.
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Here ya go then 323i pdf approx 25mb download with schematics:

http://vanhoang.com/323i-Chasis%20Electrical.pdf
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323i is referenced in the tables, and I was so happy to finally have some input, I totally overlooked the obvious - this ETM is for the E21. Sh_t.
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Any of these help??

E30 (1983 to 1992 3 Series) Wiring Diagrams
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Thanks Marti. These are the US 325 versions, and I seem to differ from the Euro 323 M20 wiring. The 320 documents are closest and may work as the 323i in Europe had the M20 with L Jettronic and a revised head. I have a feeling there is cross-over in the usage.

We've gotten the wiring pretty well worked out now anyway. I have to convert the temp sensor, as it seems to have a different thermal resistance and the guage is not operating across its range. Otherwise, the remainder of the dash seems good. We'll see...
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