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#1 (permalink) Old 08-17-2004, 11:44 PM
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i bought my 99 740i sport a few months ago, and the other day when i was waxing it i noticed a few things that look like signs of an accident. the front passenger side fender has a small scratch on it that looks like it was painted with touch up and sanded, looks almost perfect but you can see indents. that is on the very top corner of the fender, nearest the passenger side window. on the same corner, on the roof pillar that goes on the edge of the roof, there is a scratch down to the metal that you cant really see unless you get close. it is right in the spot where the fender would impact if it got hit and was jammed into the door/door area. then i noticed the sheetmetal edges dont line up exactly perfect (maybe .5 cm off), but the drivers side does. i also notice the pass. front door doesnt shut as easily as the otehr 3 doors. it takes a little bit more effort to close that door, and when you do from the inside of the car you can hear a little rattling noise on the inside of the roof/cieling.

when i bought the car the dealer did a carfax check and it came up clean, and there was no record of an accident anywhere. so i bought it at 63k miles at encinitas ford. the only problems i had with the car was a front end clunk noise that is a worn out front control arm. the car drives perfectly straight, and the tire wear is all normal thank god.

tomorrow i can get pics of everything in the light, but i only have a cell phone camera so quality wont be that great, if you need to see the areas i am talking about.

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today i confirmed my suspicion.

i found out the car is a CPO, so i took it to the BMW dealer near me (harloff) and they said they would find and fix the problem i had for $50. (the problem is worn out front control arm bushings). they found out that the front brakes were shot, the control arms need replacing, the tired needed to be rotated and balances, and it needed a 4 wheels alignment, and the car was wrecked before i bought it. the subframe under the engine was replaced, and the frame on the passenger side had been bent. the entire front end was totaled out, and it was fixed but they people who fixed it used all the old bushings and bolts to put it back together. so the frame is bent, that is why my door doesnt shut like it should. i bought the car about 3 /2 or 4 months ago. they gave me a carfax report that said the car had a clear title but they didnt print it out in my presnce so it could have been edited?

but anyway, i was lied to. the sales manager said the car had "absoloutrely no apologies" and is "mint condition" and i was told it had a clear title and was never crashed. i was promised it. so they lied to me, and i am not exactly sure what to do. of course i am going down there tomorrow and raising hell with them. i am going to try to get my money back for the car, at least most of it. also i am sure there are lemon law violations all over the car.

i think what happened was the ford dealer bought it wrecked and had it repaired as cheaply as possible then put it on their lot. i will find out tomorrow... but does anyone think i can actually get the money back for the car? or would i be better off trying to just get money for all of the repairs needed out of them? thanks.

ugh... i am so pissed off.

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Let us know how it ends

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yah thats terrible that the dealer did that to you, i hope you can reach some sort of an agreement with them. please post how this ends, i'd like to know as well.

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Any news?

Not sure where you are located, but many states have consumer protection laws to guard against this sort of thing. In Texas, we have the Deceptive Trade Practoices Act. These laws tend to be very consumer friendly and often allow the consumer to recover double or triple damages as well as attorney's fees.

If the ford dealer doesn't make things right to your satisfaction, I would talk to an attorney.

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i havent gotten anywhere with them yet, but i had little time to talk to them. they dont want to cooperate, and if they dont next time i go in there i'll tell them i am going to have an attorney give them a call.

i'll let you all know soon.

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yesterday i was driving down the highway, and something felt odd about the car. when i got off the highway, it died at the red light at the end of the exit ramp. then as i was about 1/3 of a mile from home i noticed how bad it was smoking and smelling like burning rubber or oil. i get out and look under the car and of course everything is covered in oil, dripping off of everything. so this morning i called harloff BMW, the last ones to do any work on the car, and they towed the car to the shop. i havent heard anything today.


nightmare.

edit: also, i drove the car at least 3-4 miles while it was pissing oil everywhere.

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I also had a bad BMW buying experience. I bought a 528 on ebay for $16,000 and 45 minutes after owning it, the radiator blew up and the dealer from Texas wasn't about to pay for repairs...... until I noticed that he had a Ferrari 360 Modena for sale on ebay with 1 bidder for $160,000 I then told him I was going to contact that bidder and tell him about the business he runs. He instantly said "where shall I send the check?" My advice, threaten their business and they will pay.......

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ok, the car needs a new engine. the repair cost is going to be $15,000. i am not paying and am having this investigated. i payed for a carfax report myself, and it had no accident reports on it. i am about to call the DMV to see if there were any accidents reported to them. i am not sure exactly what the problem was that was bad enough to ruin the entire engine but when i find out i'll tell you. what a shitty new car experience this was.

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they said it was a "radiator hose at the back of the engine" that broke, which makes no sense to me because what i saw all over the car was oil. they still swore it was a radiator hose... and i asked if the engine would be covered under the CPO program and he said no, because technically what broke was not part of the drivetrain or engine. also, i am not sure if the extra $1500 warranty i bought from the loan company (like warranty gold) will cover the engine if need be.

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ok, a hose going to the heater core in the cabin broke. my warranty, ford, or BMW will not cover it. i got to see what broke, and the block is ruined. that explained the oil all over the place. i have to for over $$$ for an engine. i found one in los angeles for $5000 out of a wrecked 2000 740i with 53,000 miles. i am thinking about swapping in an M5 motor and tranny IF i can find a wrecked M5, but i dont know about electronics, transmission mounts, etc. maybe you guys can shed a little light on the subject? anyway, blegh. this really sucks. it pisses me off that after 4 god damned months of owning a new car (new to me) i have to replace the damned engine. what a fucking pisser. i could have bought so many other cars out there... why did i have to chose this one? ugh.

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eh my car was picked up and towed to L.A. today. i found a 2003 range rover 4.4 liter engine there with 15k miles for $5000 and $1000 to have it towed tehre and put in. the engine had a broken timing chain cover but that will be used from my engine. other than that it was like new. so for $6000 the car was towed up there, the engine pulled out, and they are going to have it done by next monday i believe. i'll have my damn car back, but man what an expensive experience.

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wait ur putting a RR engine in it?

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yep, same 4.4 liter as the e38/540i.

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